Question for SunKing or anyone else w/ HTPC and GeForce 2

Deborah · 05-31-2003, 06:18 PM

How many FPS are you getting?

Thanks so much

Deborah

feldon34 · 05-31-2003, 08:14 PM

If you have a question specifically for SunKing, you can also send him a Private Message (the PM button under his name).

If your question is what FPS people get on GeForce 2 cards, there are 5+ models to choose from:

GeForce 2 GTS Ultra
GeForce 2 GTS
GeForce 2
GeForce 2 MX400
GeForce 2 MX200

I don't think a Home Theater (HTPC) application vs. using an ordinary monitor would affect framerates.

Deborah · 05-31-2003, 09:23 PM

I have the GeForce 2 GTS Ultra and getting 19 fps. Does this sound right?

Thanks so much

Deborah

feldon34 · 05-31-2003, 10:27 PM

That sounds horrible.

Please turn off Anti-Aliasing, Anisotropic Filtering, and set color depth on the Aquarium to 16-bit.

Please let us know if you need help changing these settings.

Deborah · 06-01-2003, 01:20 AM

Ok, I turned them off, i changed it to 16 bit and hit apply and then ok.

It seems to go back to 32bit everytime i check it. Don't know why this is happening.

My FPS are still at 19.xx to 21.xx after i turned off the two that you mentioned.

Help?

Thank so much, Morgan

Deborah

Deborah · 06-01-2003, 01:41 AM

OK, I got the 16 bit to stay,but still only getting 19.xx to 21.xx FPS.

Any suggestions?

Deborah

Jav400 · 06-01-2003, 05:18 AM

Something is wrong somewhere. I have a GF 2 Ultra and at 1600x1200 I get 92 fps with v-sync off. Which drivers are you using?

Deborah · 06-01-2003, 03:55 PM

Hi Michael,

I downloaded the 44.xx drivers ,but had to uninstall them(messed everything up) so I went back to the 23.xx drivers.

How much memory are you using for PCI texture memory size? It's under the "Direct 3D settings.

How many MB of system memory are you using for textures in PCI mode? It's under the "Open GL settings"

Thanks so much : >

Deborah

feldon34 · 06-01-2003, 04:08 PM

Neither of those texture memory settings should affect the Aquarium. Note that the Aquarium is Direct3D, not OpenGL.

Can you run the Aquarium and press the S key to bring up the Status display and copy down everything you see at the top and paste it here?

Deborah · 06-01-2003, 04:15 PM

Sure, I'll be right back......

Deborah · 06-01-2003, 04:26 PM

19.xx FPS (960x540x16) Direct 3D HAL V1.1 Wide

There you go. Again, I have a HTPC and using "PowerStrip"

Thanks so much : >

Deborah

Tiny Turtle · 06-02-2003, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by feldon27
If you have a question specifically for SunKing, you can also send him a Private Message (the PM button under his name).

If your question is what FPS people get on GeForce 2 cards, there are 5+ models to choose from:

GeForce 2 GTS Ultra
GeForce 2 GTS
GeForce 2
GeForce 2 MX400
GeForce 2 MX200

I don't think a Home Theater (HTPC) application vs. using an ordinary monitor would affect framerates.

Message from the anal retentive dept:
GeForce 2 GTS Ultra
GeForce 2 Pro
GeForce 2 GTS
GeForce 2 MX400
GeForce 2 MX
GeForce 2 MX200
(GeForce 2 MX100 – Never released)

feldon34 · 06-02-2003, 09:27 AM

MX is inherently an MX200, no?

Tiny Turtle · 06-02-2003, 11:18 AM

Almost. Not looking to hi-jack the thread or anything, but it should be something like this:

• The original NV11 – GeForce 2 MX is basically a GeForce 2 GTS w/ only 2 pipelines, 175/166/350MHz core/mem/RAMDAC and came in 32 & 64 MB configs.

• GF2MX400 (Still a NV11) is the same but has 200/166MHz core/RAM.

• GF2MX200 is clocked at the same speed as the original MX but has the memory interface cut in half for 64 bits instead of the 128 of the others. These never came with 64MB.

• The (TTBOMK) never released GF2MX100 was intended to have 175/166MHz core/RAM, 8/16MB and the mem interface cut in half again which meant it couldn't outperform the TNT2s it was supposed to replace.

/Tiny GF

P.S.
The GeForce 2 Pro is the same as a GF2GTS but with the RAM at 200MHz instead of 166MHz and also included the TwinView of the MX cards.
Also, there was a 0.15µm GeForce 2 Ti released (all other GF2s used 0.18µm). It ran the core@250MHz and RAM@200MHz.

Deborah · 06-02-2003, 12:43 PM

Any additional advice?

Thanks so much

Deborah

cjmaddy · 06-02-2003, 02:37 PM

GF2MX200 is clocked at the same speed as the original MX but has the memory interface cut in half for 64 bits instead of the 128 of the others. These never came with 64MB.

Tiny, - How do I say this tactfully? ......

My first GeForce2 was a MX200 64MB (it's now in my sons computer), I replaced it with a MX400 because Morgan etc said the MX400 was so much better. - I found very little difference, - may be because they were both 64MB. - The 200 was very quiet, - it needed no fan!

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=35980

I now use a GF4 MX440 ........ anyone need a MX400?

feldon34 · 06-02-2003, 03:57 PM

I found the GeForce 2 MX200 to be absolutely STRANGLED when trying to talk to its own memory. Wolfenstein III at 1024x768 was an unplayable 20fps. The MX400 does an acceptable 50fps.

cjmaddy · 06-02-2003, 04:06 PM

What's Wolfenstein III ?

I only play with the aquariums Morgan,

........ and Photoshop Elements!

Yellow Tang · 06-03-2003, 05:17 AM

I don't have a problem with Wolfenstein 3D (it's a 1st person shooter), it runs great at 1024x768 (16 bit) with my MX200!

cjmaddy · 06-03-2003, 05:59 AM

It was my attempt at a joke YT

..... Note the

(nudge nudge, know what a mean?) - British humour!

But thanks!

05-31-2003, 06:18 PM	#1
Deborah Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 23	Question for SunKing or anyone else w/ HTPC and GeForce 2 How many FPS are you getting? Thanks so much Deborah

05-31-2003, 08:14 PM	#2
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	If you have a question specifically for SunKing, you can also send him a Private Message (the PM button under his name). If your question is what FPS people get on GeForce 2 cards, there are 5+ models to choose from: GeForce 2 GTS Ultra GeForce 2 GTS GeForce 2 GeForce 2 MX400 GeForce 2 MX200 I don't think a Home Theater (HTPC) application vs. using an ordinary monitor would affect framerates. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

05-31-2003, 10:27 PM	#4
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	That sounds horrible. Please turn off Anti-Aliasing, Anisotropic Filtering, and set color depth on the Aquarium to 16-bit. Please let us know if you need help changing these settings. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-01-2003, 05:18 AM	#7
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Something is wrong somewhere. I have a GF 2 Ultra and at 1600x1200 I get 92 fps with v-sync off. Which drivers are you using? Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

06-01-2003, 04:08 PM	#9
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Neither of those texture memory settings should affect the Aquarium. Note that the Aquarium is Direct3D, not OpenGL. Can you run the Aquarium and press the S key to bring up the Status display and copy down everything you see at the top and paste it here? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

05-31-2003, 09:23 PM	#3
Deborah Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 23	I have the GeForce 2 GTS Ultra and getting 19 fps. Does this sound right? Thanks so much Deborah

06-01-2003, 01:20 AM	#5
Deborah Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 23	Ok, I turned them off, i changed it to 16 bit and hit apply and then ok. It seems to go back to 32bit everytime i check it. Don't know why this is happening. My FPS are still at 19.xx to 21.xx after i turned off the two that you mentioned. Help? Thank so much, Morgan Deborah

06-01-2003, 01:41 AM	#6
Deborah Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 23	OK, I got the 16 bit to stay,but still only getting 19.xx to 21.xx FPS. Any suggestions? Deborah

06-01-2003, 03:55 PM	#8
Deborah Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 23	Hi Michael, I downloaded the 44.xx drivers ,but had to uninstall them(messed everything up) so I went back to the 23.xx drivers. How much memory are you using for PCI texture memory size? It's under the "Direct 3D settings. How many MB of system memory are you using for textures in PCI mode? It's under the "Open GL settings" Thanks so much : > Deborah

06-01-2003, 04:15 PM	#10
Deborah Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 23	Sure, I'll be right back......

06-01-2003, 04:26 PM	#11
Deborah Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 23	19.xx FPS (960x540x16) Direct 3D HAL V1.1 Wide There you go. Again, I have a HTPC and using "PowerStrip" Thanks so much : > Deborah Last edited by Deborah; 06-02-2003 at 12:42 PM.

06-02-2003, 02:07 AM	#12
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Originally posted by feldon27 If you have a question specifically for SunKing, you can also send him a Private Message (the PM button under his name). If your question is what FPS people get on GeForce 2 cards, there are 5+ models to choose from: GeForce 2 GTS Ultra GeForce 2 GTS GeForce 2 GeForce 2 MX400 GeForce 2 MX200 I don't think a Home Theater (HTPC) application vs. using an ordinary monitor would affect framerates. Message from the anal retentive dept: GeForce 2 GTS Ultra GeForce 2 Pro GeForce 2 GTS GeForce 2 MX400 GeForce 2 MX GeForce 2 MX200 (GeForce 2 MX100 – Never released) Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

06-02-2003, 09:27 AM	#13
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	MX is inherently an MX200, no? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-02-2003, 11:18 AM	#14
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Almost. Not looking to hi-jack the thread or anything, but it should be something like this: • The original NV11 – GeForce 2 MX is basically a GeForce 2 GTS w/ only 2 pipelines, 175/166/350MHz core/mem/RAMDAC and came in 32 & 64 MB configs. • GF2MX400 (Still a NV11) is the same but has 200/166MHz core/RAM. • GF2MX200 is clocked at the same speed as the original MX but has the memory interface cut in half for 64 bits instead of the 128 of the others. These never came with 64MB. • The (TTBOMK) never released GF2MX100 was intended to have 175/166MHz core/RAM, 8/16MB and the mem interface cut in half again which meant it couldn't outperform the TNT2s it was supposed to replace. /Tiny GF P.S. The GeForce 2 Pro is the same as a GF2GTS but with the RAM at 200MHz instead of 166MHz and also included the TwinView of the MX cards. Also, there was a 0.15µm GeForce 2 Ti released (all other GF2s used 0.18µm). It ran the core@250MHz and RAM@200MHz. Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

06-02-2003, 12:43 PM	#15
Deborah Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 23	Any additional advice? Thanks so much Deborah

06-02-2003, 02:37 PM	#16
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	GF2MX200 is clocked at the same speed as the original MX but has the memory interface cut in half for 64 bits instead of the 128 of the others. These never came with 64MB. Tiny, - How do I say this tactfully? ...... My first GeForce2 was a MX200 64MB (it's now in my sons computer), I replaced it with a MX400 because Morgan etc said the MX400 was so much better. - I found very little difference, - may be because they were both 64MB. - The 200 was very quiet, - it needed no fan! http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=35980 I now use a GF4 MX440 ........ anyone need a MX400?

06-02-2003, 03:57 PM	#17
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	I found the GeForce 2 MX200 to be absolutely STRANGLED when trying to talk to its own memory. Wolfenstein III at 1024x768 was an unplayable 20fps. The MX400 does an acceptable 50fps. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-02-2003, 04:06 PM	#18
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	What's Wolfenstein III ? I only play with the aquariums Morgan, ........ and Photoshop Elements!

06-03-2003, 05:17 AM	#19
Yellow Tang YT Join Date: Jan 2002 Tournaments Won: 1 Location: Germany Posts: 729	I don't have a problem with Wolfenstein 3D (it's a 1st person shooter), it runs great at 1024x768 (16 bit) with my MX200!

06-03-2003, 05:59 AM	#20
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	It was my attempt at a joke YT ..... Note the (nudge nudge, know what a mean?) - British humour! But thanks!