Aquarium Hacked - Page 2

Jim Sachs · 01-17-2002, 10:37 PM

Thanks for purchasing, Ralph. Now that you are part of the family, you will enjoy the periodic free updates. The upcoming version will contain a Lionfish which took me a month to create, and there will soon be a new 3D background and other goodies.

WiseGuy · 03-01-2002, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs
The new Keys are 20-digit alphanumerics, so the odds against this are several billion to 1.

Jim I am sorry to say that I see S/N and keygens already for your 1.1v.
There is NO STOPING this type of activity

Spyder · 03-01-2002, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by WiseGuy

Jim I am sorry to say that I see S/N and keygens already for your 1.1v.
There is NO STOPING this type of activity

Yep its true, because I got one of the serial numbers off the net for v1.1 ...

now, in reference to my other post regarding this, I'm thoroughly impressed with the Lionfish! The demo wouldn't let me see it, and now that I have, I'm gonna buy

James · 03-01-2002, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Spyder

Yep its true, because I got one of the serial numbers off the net for v1.1 ...

now, in reference to my other post regarding this, I'm thoroughly impressed with the Lionfish! The demo wouldn't let me see it, and now that I have, I'm gonna buy

Spyder..
as Jim said b4, it's very noble of u get the illegal already but u still gonna buy it,I'm sorry but I have to say this,I REALLY doubt u'll gonna buy it if u have illegal S/N now,
if u really do support Jim, buying it isn't enough for u,
the best u can do is send those illegal S/N or Keygen to Jim to let him out it under "blocked" list.....

I know u r the one who r searching for S/N in the first place...
u've even send private msg to me and beg for S/N after u know I got several keycode email.....I wasn't wanna spread this around first...to keep ur face on and survive on this forum....
but now
I think I have to let u know what u did is a shame and I should let other know......

PLEASE, anyone who found the keycode or keygen on the net...
please report it to Jim to let him disable it in the next update....
this is someway we can give something back for Jim....

Jim Sachs · 03-01-2002, 07:39 PM

No need to send us the illegals, it would just increase the email load. We monitor all the crack boards and newsgroups. Illegal keys will be blocked as they show up. If someone posts their real key, they lose it for future updates.

James · 03-01-2002, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs
We monitor all the crack boards and newsgroups. Illegal keys will be blocked as they show up.

wow REALLY?
that must be a very taugh job.....there r soooooooooo many cracks out there.....it's hard to imaging how can u monitor all those......
I admire that......

Jim....is it possible to make SSA a product activation process on the first time run?
the server might be a problem....hum....just a thought....

Spyder · 03-01-2002, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by James
[b]
I know u r the one who r searching for S/N in the first place...
u've even send private msg to me and beg for S/N after u know I got several keycode email.....I wasn't wanna spread this around first...to keep ur face on and survive on this forum....
but now
I think I have to let u know what u did is a shame and I should let other know......

Sure I admit I did that, but for no other reason than to evaluate the full product. Theres a big difference between asking you for one of the extra serials you received and begging for it, so you need to choose your wording a little better. Anyways, the big picture here is, whats the difference if I asked you and got it from you or from somewhere else on the net?

I could care less about "saving face".. I've been real from the beginning. I said what I was doing, why I was doing it, and what will happen in the end.

I purchased the aquarium today FYI. So you can believe what you want to believe.

Jim Sachs · 03-01-2002, 10:31 PM

James - it's not very hard to track. A simple daily Usenet search uncovers most of the messages. And finding the rest of them... well I'm sure you know what all the 20 programmers at Prolific did before they came over to the light side of the Force.

James · 03-01-2002, 11:04 PM

I purchased the aquarium today FYI. So you can believe what you want to believe.

good to hear that

btw,if u really like it then u should buy it from the beginning,why nother to search the cracks?for evaluation??that's only arguing speciously...not a good enough reason....
my wording maybe hard....but that's what I feel from u......
anyway....u r a very noble man now.....

I'm sure you know what all the 20 programmers at Prolific did before they came over to the light side of the Force.

I know and that sounds great....

NICE!

Ralph · 03-01-2002, 11:24 PM

For what it is worth. I installed version 1.1 on Feb 20, by Feb 22 there was a key generator available (I found it on the 23 and sent a copy to Feldon). There is very litle defense against a properly coded key generator and it will provide a number every bit as valid as one by Prolific.
Not every illegal copy is lost revenue though. Some will purchase after they see the full features. Some will purchace when they realize this is the product of an individual and not some faceless corporation. And some displays, illegal or not, will inspire others to purchase.
Not that it is any consilation but to have a key generator made for a 20$ program does say something for the product.
Ralph

Shinsa · 03-01-2002, 11:43 PM

Just a side note...

In the mid '80's one of the biggest selling pieces of software was for the Apple II line of computers. It was called AppleWorks. The Program cost about $200, and came on 2 800k disks, or something like 8 140k disks. Anyway it was one of the biggest sellers for home and small office computers, regardless of make (Apple, IBM, Atari, etc...)

The interesting thing was it was NEVER copy protected. I might also add it was THE MOST pirated piece of software at that time as well.

Socrates · 03-02-2002, 12:01 AM

I used AppleWorks (which my parents actually paid for) all through grade school and high school and beyond until about 1992 when both of the floppies for my IIc crapped out.

Russell · 03-03-2002, 01:00 AM

Yes. I used a keygen before I bought serenescreen. I don't really feel that bad about it because it's a great way to buy software over the internet. It's just so easy to find a keygen, and if you're thinking of buying the software it's in anyone's best interest to try it out before they buy it. I think it's really tough for people to buy something that they can get for free across the street, even if it's not perfectly legal. Sorry about that, and I hope that software security gets better with time so you won't have to deal with these sort of issues.

Spyder · 03-05-2002, 03:18 PM

For any of those against the whole keygen/warez thing... if someone asks you for a serial number..just give them this one:

Y4RIGH7Y0UW4R3ZM0NK3Y

WiseGuy · 03-05-2002, 04:48 PM

After reading all the post here. I can't help but wonder, what percentage of people on the board are using a cracked version.

Ralph · 03-05-2002, 07:30 PM

Just my 2 cents but I would think very few. It is my opinion that software (or anything) is "borrowed" from faceless corporations. Once it has a face it becomes like "borrowing" from the family. I would doubt there are many software programs where one can speak directly to the creator / developer and get a timely thought out response.
I am sure there are signifigant numbers of SS running and registered with a false number. Certainly there are numerous requests, I would guess 1-2 per day in those groups that I look into. But, those individuals will not likely be spending much time on this board.
Ralph

sorelosr · 03-06-2002, 01:29 AM

Jim, Why would you allow a wrong key to run for up to a year. Alot has happened in a year especially with this screensaver. Sounds counter productive to me. A year ago, I had a P2-450 now thats the kids computer

Now if after a year the fish just started eating the hard drive until it was formatted that would be cool.

Jim Sachs · 03-06-2002, 02:05 AM

Uh-oh, you may be onto our little plan.

WiseGuy · 03-06-2002, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs
Uh-oh, you may be onto our little plan.

Sounds like just scare tactics to me!!

Tiny Turtle · 03-06-2002, 08:24 AM

– Duh! –

01-17-2002, 10:37 PM	#21
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Thanks for purchasing, Ralph. Now that you are part of the family, you will enjoy the periodic free updates. The upcoming version will contain a Lionfish which took me a month to create, and there will soon be a new 3D background and other goodies. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-01-2002, 03:01 PM	#22
WiseGuy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Long Island Posts: 16	Version 1.1 Cracked already Originally posted by Jim Sachs The new Keys are 20-digit alphanumerics, so the odds against this are several billion to 1. Jim I am sorry to say that I see S/N and keygens already for your 1.1v. There is NO STOPING this type of activity

03-01-2002, 04:12 PM	#23
Spyder Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 36	Re: Version 1.1 Cracked already Originally posted by WiseGuy Jim I am sorry to say that I see S/N and keygens already for your 1.1v. There is NO STOPING this type of activity Yep its true, because I got one of the serial numbers off the net for v1.1 ... now, in reference to my other post regarding this, I'm thoroughly impressed with the Lionfish! The demo wouldn't let me see it, and now that I have, I'm gonna buy

03-01-2002, 05:39 PM	#24
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Re: Re: Version 1.1 Cracked already Originally posted by Spyder Yep its true, because I got one of the serial numbers off the net for v1.1 ... now, in reference to my other post regarding this, I'm thoroughly impressed with the Lionfish! The demo wouldn't let me see it, and now that I have, I'm gonna buy Spyder.. as Jim said b4, it's very noble of u get the illegal already but u still gonna buy it,I'm sorry but I have to say this,I REALLY doubt u'll gonna buy it if u have illegal S/N now, if u really do support Jim, buying it isn't enough for u, the best u can do is send those illegal S/N or Keygen to Jim to let him out it under "blocked" list..... I know u r the one who r searching for S/N in the first place... u've even send private msg to me and beg for S/N after u know I got several keycode email.....I wasn't wanna spread this around first...to keep ur face on and survive on this forum.... but now I think I have to let u know what u did is a shame and I should let other know...... PLEASE, anyone who found the keycode or keygen on the net... please report it to Jim to let him disable it in the next update.... this is someway we can give something back for Jim.... James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

03-01-2002, 07:39 PM	#25
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	No need to send us the illegals, it would just increase the email load. We monitor all the crack boards and newsgroups. Illegal keys will be blocked as they show up. If someone posts their real key, they lose it for future updates. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-01-2002, 08:09 PM	#26
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Originally posted by Jim Sachs We monitor all the crack boards and newsgroups. Illegal keys will be blocked as they show up. wow REALLY? that must be a very taugh job.....there r soooooooooo many cracks out there.....it's hard to imaging how can u monitor all those...... I admire that...... Jim....is it possible to make SSA a product activation process on the first time run? the server might be a problem....hum....just a thought.... James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

03-01-2002, 09:56 PM	#27
Spyder Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 36	Re: Re: Re: Version 1.1 Cracked already Originally posted by James [b] I know u r the one who r searching for S/N in the first place... u've even send private msg to me and beg for S/N after u know I got several keycode email.....I wasn't wanna spread this around first...to keep ur face on and survive on this forum.... but now I think I have to let u know what u did is a shame and I should let other know...... Sure I admit I did that, but for no other reason than to evaluate the full product. Theres a big difference between asking you for one of the extra serials you received and begging for it, so you need to choose your wording a little better. Anyways, the big picture here is, whats the difference if I asked you and got it from you or from somewhere else on the net? I could care less about "saving face".. I've been real from the beginning. I said what I was doing, why I was doing it, and what will happen in the end. I purchased the aquarium today FYI. So you can believe what you want to believe. Last edited by Spyder; 03-01-2002 at 10:12 PM.

03-01-2002, 10:31 PM	#28
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	James - it's not very hard to track. A simple daily Usenet search uncovers most of the messages. And finding the rest of them... well I'm sure you know what all the 20 programmers at Prolific did before they came over to the light side of the Force. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-01-2002, 11:04 PM	#29
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	I purchased the aquarium today FYI. So you can believe what you want to believe. good to hear that btw,if u really like it then u should buy it from the beginning,why nother to search the cracks?for evaluation??that's only arguing speciously...not a good enough reason.... my wording maybe hard....but that's what I feel from u...... anyway....u r a very noble man now..... I'm sure you know what all the 20 programmers at Prolific did before they came over to the light side of the Force. I know and that sounds great.... NICE! James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

03-01-2002, 11:24 PM	#30
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,454	For what it is worth. I installed version 1.1 on Feb 20, by Feb 22 there was a key generator available (I found it on the 23 and sent a copy to Feldon). There is very litle defense against a properly coded key generator and it will provide a number every bit as valid as one by Prolific. Not every illegal copy is lost revenue though. Some will purchase after they see the full features. Some will purchace when they realize this is the product of an individual and not some faceless corporation. And some displays, illegal or not, will inspire others to purchase. Not that it is any consilation but to have a key generator made for a 20$ program does say something for the product. Ralph

03-01-2002, 11:43 PM	#31
Shinsa Registered Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 407	Just a side note... In the mid '80's one of the biggest selling pieces of software was for the Apple II line of computers. It was called AppleWorks. The Program cost about $200, and came on 2 800k disks, or something like 8 140k disks. Anyway it was one of the biggest sellers for home and small office computers, regardless of make (Apple, IBM, Atari, etc...) The interesting thing was it was NEVER copy protected. I might also add it was THE MOST pirated piece of software at that time as well. Bob "When you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." _______________________________________________

03-02-2002, 12:01 AM	#32
Socrates Sage Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 1,529	I used AppleWorks (which my parents actually paid for) all through grade school and high school and beyond until about 1992 when both of the floppies for my IIc crapped out. Bat rays? We don't need no stinking bat rays!

03-03-2002, 01:00 AM	#33
Russell Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Edmonton Posts: 4	Yes. I used a keygen before I bought serenescreen. I don't really feel that bad about it because it's a great way to buy software over the internet. It's just so easy to find a keygen, and if you're thinking of buying the software it's in anyone's best interest to try it out before they buy it. I think it's really tough for people to buy something that they can get for free across the street, even if it's not perfectly legal. Sorry about that, and I hope that software security gets better with time so you won't have to deal with these sort of issues.

03-05-2002, 03:18 PM	#34
Spyder Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 36	For any of those against the whole keygen/warez thing... if someone asks you for a serial number..just give them this one: Y4RIGH7Y0UW4R3ZM0NK3Y

03-05-2002, 04:48 PM	#35
WiseGuy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Long Island Posts: 16	After reading all the post here. I can't help but wonder, what percentage of people on the board are using a cracked version.

03-05-2002, 07:30 PM	#36
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,454	Just my 2 cents but I would think very few. It is my opinion that software (or anything) is "borrowed" from faceless corporations. Once it has a face it becomes like "borrowing" from the family. I would doubt there are many software programs where one can speak directly to the creator / developer and get a timely thought out response. I am sure there are signifigant numbers of SS running and registered with a false number. Certainly there are numerous requests, I would guess 1-2 per day in those groups that I look into. But, those individuals will not likely be spending much time on this board. Ralph

03-06-2002, 01:29 AM	#37
sorelosr Registered Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3	Jim, Why would you allow a wrong key to run for up to a year. Alot has happened in a year especially with this screensaver. Sounds counter productive to me. A year ago, I had a P2-450 now thats the kids computer Now if after a year the fish just started eating the hard drive until it was formatted that would be cool.

03-06-2002, 02:05 AM	#38
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Uh-oh, you may be onto our little plan. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-06-2002, 08:17 AM	#39
WiseGuy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Long Island Posts: 16	Originally posted by Jim Sachs Uh-oh, you may be onto our little plan. Sounds like just scare tactics to me!!

03-06-2002, 08:24 AM	#40
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	– Duh! –