Marine Aquarium 3 Beta INSTALLER test - Page 15

Rick Simon · 03-06-2009, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by feldon33:

Usually the installer has a checkbox at the end of the process "View the Read Me file now?"

IMHO - that's a much better solution than dropping icons all over the place. I never did much care for programs that leave little icon droppings all over the place without at least asking me first.

Yodelking · 03-06-2009, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by feldon33:

Usually the installer has a checkbox at the end of the process "View the Read Me file now?"

Yes, that's much better than dropping it at the desktop

Ralph · 03-06-2009, 11:21 PM

I... normally ignore it.. wanting to run the program... and.. forget about it and only look (and wonder where) if there is a subsequent problem.. Placing it on my desktop is a reminder that there is a new program that bears watching.. then I delete it

fozzy · 03-07-2009, 05:32 AM

ideally id' like the program to ask if i want to see the readme and it should create a start menu item.

Dale · 03-07-2009, 09:25 AM

Lots of good, varied ideas.

I believe that Prolific needs to decide the following:

1. What are the purposes of the readme.txt file?

[2. Does the current installation (silently hiding the file) accomplish that?]

3. If not, how should it work?

dwax · 03-07-2009, 11:53 AM

The beta 9M is now in the installer. just downloaded and testing.

Get it at SereneScreen.
http://www.serenescreen.com/

Edgar · 03-07-2009, 12:09 PM

I am confused about the concern on Readme.txt. I just installed the new installer, looked at the Start->Programs->SereneScreen and there is a link to the Readme there. I think that is the normal method for most software out there.

Dale · 03-07-2009, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by Edgar:

I am confused about the concern on Readme.txt. I just installed the new installer, looked at the Start->Programs->SereneScreen and there is a link to the Readme there. I think that is the normal method for most software out there.

Yes. However, as Jim points out, the majority of people will (incorrectly) believe this is a Screen Saver.

Where would you expect to find the Readme.txt file for "3D Text" or "Beziers"?

Also, if I were looking in Start>Programs for a Screen Saver named "MarineAquarium3", I wouldn't necessarily tumble to the fact that I should look under "SereneScreen".

I'm not necessarily saying that the current approach (don't even mention a readme) is wrong - I'm just pointing out that the method might be improved, if it doesn't meet Prolific's objectives.

Nicki · 03-07-2009, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Dale:

Also, if I were looking in Start>Programs for a Screen Saver named "MarineAquarium3", I wouldn't necessarily tumble to the fact that I should look under "SereneScreen".

A point well made . Although it does say serenescreen on the crystal , this might be too much of a leap for the casual user . But it seems Jim is against his software forcing something on the user , which is fair enough , so I think we are left with Feldons suggestion , with maybe the word recommended tacked on to the end . But what do I know , I always read the readme file to make sure I'm not missing any features in something I have spent my hard earned money on . Instruction manuals , assembly instructions etc .

CheriePie · 03-07-2009, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by Butters:

But what do I know , I always read the readme file to make sure I'm not missing any features in something I have spent my hard earned money on . Instruction manuals , assembly instructions etc .

I'm with you. I always go in search of readme files for new software I install. And yes, I've always loved reading user manuals cover to cover as well.

Falz · 03-07-2009, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

So turn on vsync.

Forcing vsync in all programs just for the screensaver is silly, old version had a registry setting you could change, new version does not. A loss in features.

I just purchased the upgrade, by the way. Please support vsync again.

Jim Sachs · 03-08-2009, 12:00 AM

I don't remember ever putting it in before, but I'll look into the possibility.

Falz · 03-08-2009, 03:13 AM

It was a registry tweak which was off by default, but you could change the value to 01 and get it back. I can't force vsync on my laptop due to Intel integrated graphics not having the option.

Jim Sachs · 03-08-2009, 03:55 AM

I looked into it, and the feature will be in the next Beta.

Falz · 03-08-2009, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

I looked into it, and the feature will be in the next Beta.

That's great!

Any reason for using the default System font? Looks a wee bit unpolished. I know a lot of multi language stuff tends to use it, perhaps due to the fixed size.

Also, the file is simply named MarineAquarium3.exe now that it's being sold in the online store - is there a way I can know when a new version is released other than the forum?

Wheee!

feldon34 · 03-08-2009, 03:26 PM

The version at SereneScreen.com will always lag behind the one available here on the forum. The one at SereneScreen.com might only be updated once a month, where as there might be a dozen releases from the forum in that same time period.

Your best way to stay up-to-date is to follow this link:
https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ription&t=4385

Jim Sachs · 03-08-2009, 04:40 PM

I probably won't be spending any time on fonts in the near future.

rcl66 · 03-29-2009, 07:19 PM

I have Beta Test 9 and it expired - and I can't find a newer one. May be looking in the wrong place but I checked most threads. Nice to have the 3D version - been using this as a screen saver since day1.

Jav400 · 03-29-2009, 08:35 PM

The Beta versions are only that, Beta's set to expire used for testing purposes.

The Installer version at SereneScreen does not expire, however it is a bit further out of date.

rcl66 · 03-29-2009, 09:11 PM

Thanks - didn't realize that 3.0 was released.

03-06-2009, 10:58 PM	#282
Yodelking yodeler Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Staffanstorp, Sweden Posts: 294	Originally posted by feldon33: Usually the installer has a checkbox at the end of the process "View the Read Me file now?" Yes, that's much better than dropping it at the desktop Yodelking - För god att kolsyra!

03-07-2009, 05:32 AM	#284
fozzy Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 32	ideally id' like the program to ask if i want to see the readme and it should create a start menu item. testing on: ATI Radeon mobility X2300 - Intel(R) 946GZ Express Chipset Family

03-07-2009, 11:53 AM	#286
dwax Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SOUTH DAKOTA Posts: 83	The beta 9M is now in the installer. just downloaded and testing. Get it at SereneScreen. http://www.serenescreen.com/ By dustywax at 2011-12-13

03-07-2009, 12:09 PM	#287
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	I am confused about the concern on Readme.txt. I just installed the new installer, looked at the Start->Programs->SereneScreen and there is a link to the Readme there. I think that is the normal method for most software out there. *Edgar Tolentino* Prolific Developer www.prolific.com www.LifeGlobe.com

03-07-2009, 03:43 PM	#289
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	Originally posted by Dale: Also, if I were looking in Start>Programs for a Screen Saver named "MarineAquarium3", I wouldn't necessarily tumble to the fact that I should look under "SereneScreen". A point well made . Although it does say serenescreen on the crystal , this might be too much of a leap for the casual user . But it seems Jim is against his software forcing something on the user , which is fair enough , so I think we are left with Feldons suggestion , with maybe the word recommended tacked on to the end . But what do I know , I always read the readme file to make sure I'm not missing any features in something I have spent my hard earned money on . Instruction manuals , assembly instructions etc . Run you clever boy. And remember...

03-06-2009, 09:25 PM	#281
Rick Simon Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 93	Originally posted by feldon33: Usually the installer has a checkbox at the end of the process "View the Read Me file now?" IMHO - that's a much better solution than dropping icons all over the place. I never did much care for programs that leave little icon droppings all over the place without at least asking me first.

03-06-2009, 11:21 PM	#283
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,454	I... normally ignore it.. wanting to run the program... and.. forget about it and only look (and wonder where) if there is a subsequent problem.. Placing it on my desktop is a reminder that there is a new program that bears watching.. then I delete it

03-07-2009, 09:25 AM	#285
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Lots of good, varied ideas. I believe that Prolific needs to decide the following: 1. What are the purposes of the readme.txt file? [2. Does the current installation (silently hiding the file) accomplish that?] 3. If not, how should it work?

03-07-2009, 01:09 PM	#288
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Edgar: I am confused about the concern on Readme.txt. I just installed the new installer, looked at the Start->Programs->SereneScreen and there is a link to the Readme there. I think that is the normal method for most software out there. Yes. However, as Jim points out, the majority of people will (incorrectly) believe this is a Screen Saver. Where would you expect to find the Readme.txt file for "3D Text" or "Beziers"? Also, if I were looking in Start>Programs for a Screen Saver named "MarineAquarium3", I wouldn't necessarily tumble to the fact that I should look under "SereneScreen". I'm not necessarily saying that the current approach (don't even mention a readme) is wrong - I'm just pointing out that the method might be improved, if it doesn't meet Prolific's objectives.

03-07-2009, 06:19 PM	#290
CheriePie Registered Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 24	Originally posted by Butters: But what do I know , I always read the readme file to make sure I'm not missing any features in something I have spent my hard earned money on . Instruction manuals , assembly instructions etc . I'm with you. I always go in search of readme files for new software I install. And yes, I've always loved reading user manuals cover to cover as well. (¯`v´¯).•¨`•♥.•´.¸.•´ `.¸.´♥ CheriePie )O( ♥ reviews • blog • twitter

03-07-2009, 11:41 PM	#291
Falz Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 118	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: So turn on vsync. Forcing vsync in all programs just for the screensaver is silly, old version had a registry setting you could change, new version does not. A loss in features. I just purchased the upgrade, by the way. Please support vsync again.

03-08-2009, 12:00 AM	#292
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	I don't remember ever putting it in before, but I'll look into the possibility. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-08-2009, 03:13 AM	#293
Falz Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 118	It was a registry tweak which was off by default, but you could change the value to 01 and get it back. I can't force vsync on my laptop due to Intel integrated graphics not having the option.

03-08-2009, 03:55 AM	#294
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	I looked into it, and the feature will be in the next Beta. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-08-2009, 03:14 PM	#295
Falz Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 118	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: I looked into it, and the feature will be in the next Beta. That's great! Any reason for using the default System font? Looks a wee bit unpolished. I know a lot of multi language stuff tends to use it, perhaps due to the fixed size. Also, the file is simply named MarineAquarium3.exe now that it's being sold in the online store - is there a way I can know when a new version is released other than the forum? Wheee!

03-08-2009, 03:26 PM	#296
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	The version at SereneScreen.com will always lag behind the one available here on the forum. The one at SereneScreen.com might only be updated once a month, where as there might be a dozen releases from the forum in that same time period. Your best way to stay up-to-date is to follow this link: https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ription&t=4385 "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-08-2009, 04:40 PM	#297
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	I probably won't be spending any time on fonts in the near future. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-29-2009, 07:19 PM	#298
rcl66 Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 9	I have Beta Test 9 and it expired - and I can't find a newer one. May be looking in the wrong place but I checked most threads. Nice to have the 3D version - been using this as a screen saver since day1. --Craig

03-29-2009, 08:35 PM	#299
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	The Beta versions are only that, Beta's set to expire used for testing purposes. The Installer version at SereneScreen does not expire, however it is a bit further out of date. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-29-2009, 09:11 PM	#300
rcl66 Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 9	Thanks - didn't realize that 3.0 was released. --Craig