Ugly antlers in the middle of beautiful coral

Jeremy · 02-08-2009, 12:58 PM

Question: Will there be any control over the coral background in the final version in addition to more control over the lighting besides F1-4?
Although the rest of the tank to me looks beautiful, my personal preference would be to get rid of the beige/brown coral in the middle of the tank that resembles ugly antlers dominating over beautiful coral.

Jim Sachs · 02-08-2009, 01:23 PM

Nope.

Nicki · 02-08-2009, 01:30 PM

I like the antlers . They are very deer to me . Sorry . But I do like them .

Jim Sachs · 02-08-2009, 01:40 PM

Like virtually everything in the tank, it's vital to the overall design. It provides height and an overhang, a place for future invertebrates to crawl, and will eventually cast a shadow on fish that pass underneath.

grape_jellyfish · 02-08-2009, 11:25 PM

Please keep the antlers, virtual species need a home too.

Jeremy · 02-09-2009, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Butters:

I like the antlers . They are very deer to me . Sorry . But I do like them .

I must admit I also like antlers very very much. That is, on the heads of deer, in the forest, but not growing out of the head of a rock in my aquarium!
Personally I see it as a step backwards from the perfectly balanced design of shapes and colors of the previous version.

feldon34 · 02-09-2009, 03:46 PM

It's not like Jim invented Elkhorn Coral.

http://patricklynch.net/florida-keys...ing-lynch.html

cjmaddy · 02-09-2009, 03:56 PM

Keep the Elkhorn.

Jim Sachs · 02-09-2009, 04:07 PM

No way would I ever give up the Elkhorn. It's one of my favorite parts of the tank, and the only thing that really spreads out to give it a reef-like quality.

Ralph · 02-09-2009, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Jeremy:

I must admit I also like antlers very very much. That is, on the heads of deer, in the forest, but not growing out of the head of a rock in my aquarium!
Personally I see it as a step backwards from the perfectly balanced design of shapes and colors of the previous version.

On the head of a deer these would look very silly... The "aquarium" is trying to mimic as much as possible what the real thing looks like... Go diving and you will see "antlers" that look very much like those in the SS..

snorkler · 02-09-2009, 07:42 PM

I could live without some of the more "colorful" items in the tank - the elkhorn is beautiful! should be more!
All we need is animation for the live corals, anemone, clams etc. Can hardly wait!

Michael

Jim Sachs · 02-09-2009, 08:52 PM

Me, too - I wish someone would hurry up with all that!

Jeremy · 02-09-2009, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by Ralph:

On the head of a deer these would look very silly... The "aquarium" is trying to mimic as much as possible what the real thing looks like... Go diving and you will see "antlers" that look very much like those in the SS..

I'm glad you like the tank and it gives you pleasure as is. It's just my personal opinion that it's not as attractive as the previous version. However, regarding diving and realism, then I suggest you take a look at AquaReal, in which nothing looks artificially arranged. Below is just one of six choices of available realistic looking backgrounds.

Jim Sachs · 02-09-2009, 11:29 PM

I suggest you go with that one.

grape_jellyfish · 02-09-2009, 11:52 PM

The coral looks nice Jeremy but there is something that just doesn't look right, to me it looks like there is a blue wall, making it seem like someone put coral on the outside of their tank as well as on the inside. Maybe it's just me but that's how I perceive it.

Jeremy · 02-09-2009, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

I suggest you go with that one.

For me it's not a question of one or the other. I've had that version of AquaReal pictured above since it was released, as I love its realistic looking ocean backgrounds. As an aquarium tank however, yours is brilliant and it's always been my favorite. There's just something about the elkhorn in this new version that evokes strong feelings of dislike, so I will continue enjoying your previous version until you may hopefully add an additional background to choose from.

Jim Sachs · 02-10-2009, 12:29 AM

Once I went to Paris, where I pointed out to the citizens what a lovely city it would be if not for that ugly metal tower. I showed them a picture of San Bernardino, California, which has no tower, but they still seemed unreceptive to the idea of tearing it down. They suggested that I go live in San Bernardino.

The majestic Elkhorn will always stand tall.

Rob62 · 02-10-2009, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Once I went to Paris, where I pointed out to the citizens what a lovely city it would be if not for that ugly metal tower. I showed them a picture of San Bernardino, California, which has no tower, but they still seemed unreceptive to the idea of tearing it down. They suggested that I go live in San Bernardino.

The majestic Elkhorn will always stand tall.

Jim - That is just beautiful and an excellent analogy!! For those of us who have had the honor of seeing the maturation of this artwork develop - that chunk of majestic Elkhorn has found a home in MA3, long may it stay... ~ God Bless All ~

Overlord · 02-10-2009, 02:02 AM

You can't satisfy all of the people all of the time. I checked out the Dream Aquarium. I'm sorry but I don't like it. Will they change all the things I don't like to get me to buy it? Yeah right, hold your breath! This is Jim's baby and he still tries to bend over backwards for all of his fans. Please don't push him over the edge. He knows what he's doing and what he wants.

grape_jellyfish · 02-10-2009, 02:40 AM

Listen, you don't tug on Superman's cape, something about not spitting in the wind, you leave the mask on the lone ranger, and above all, you DON"T mess around with Jim.

No, no, no, no.

02-08-2009, 12:58 PM	#1
Jeremy Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 77	Ugly antlers in the middle of beautiful coral Question: Will there be any control over the coral background in the final version in addition to more control over the lighting besides F1-4? Although the rest of the tank to me looks beautiful, my personal preference would be to get rid of the beige/brown coral in the middle of the tank that resembles ugly antlers dominating over beautiful coral. Jeremy

02-08-2009, 01:23 PM	#2
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Nope. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-08-2009, 01:30 PM	#3
Nicki Sugar Plum Fairy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,267	I like the antlers . They are very deer to me . Sorry . But I do like them . Run you clever boy. And remember...

02-08-2009, 01:40 PM	#4
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Like virtually everything in the tank, it's vital to the overall design. It provides height and an overhang, a place for future invertebrates to crawl, and will eventually cast a shadow on fish that pass underneath. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-08-2009, 11:25 PM	#5
grape_jellyfish Registered Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,235	Please keep the antlers, virtual species need a home too. Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's learning to Dance in the Rain.

02-09-2009, 03:05 PM	#6
Jeremy Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 77	Originally posted by Butters: I like the antlers . They are very deer to me . Sorry . But I do like them . I must admit I also like antlers very very much. That is, on the heads of deer, in the forest, but not growing out of the head of a rock in my aquarium! Personally I see it as a step backwards from the perfectly balanced design of shapes and colors of the previous version. Jeremy

02-09-2009, 03:46 PM	#7
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	It's not like Jim invented Elkhorn Coral. http://patricklynch.net/florida-keys...ing-lynch.html "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

02-09-2009, 03:56 PM	#8
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Keep the Elkhorn.

02-09-2009, 04:07 PM	#9
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	No way would I ever give up the Elkhorn. It's one of my favorite parts of the tank, and the only thing that really spreads out to give it a reef-like quality. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-09-2009, 07:26 PM	#10
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,454	Originally posted by Jeremy: I must admit I also like antlers very very much. That is, on the heads of deer, in the forest, but not growing out of the head of a rock in my aquarium! Personally I see it as a step backwards from the perfectly balanced design of shapes and colors of the previous version. On the head of a deer these would look very silly... The "aquarium" is trying to mimic as much as possible what the real thing looks like... Go diving and you will see "antlers" that look very much like those in the SS..

02-09-2009, 07:42 PM	#11
snorkler Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 59	I could live without some of the more "colorful" items in the tank - the elkhorn is beautiful! should be more! All we need is animation for the live corals, anemone, clams etc. Can hardly wait! Michael

02-09-2009, 08:52 PM	#12
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Me, too - I wish someone would hurry up with all that! Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-09-2009, 11:29 PM	#14
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	I suggest you go with that one. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-09-2009, 11:52 PM	#15
grape_jellyfish Registered Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,235	The coral looks nice Jeremy but there is something that just doesn't look right, to me it looks like there is a blue wall, making it seem like someone put coral on the outside of their tank as well as on the inside. Maybe it's just me but that's how I perceive it. Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's learning to Dance in the Rain.

02-09-2009, 11:56 PM	#16
Jeremy Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 77	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: I suggest you go with that one. For me it's not a question of one or the other. I've had that version of AquaReal pictured above since it was released, as I love its realistic looking ocean backgrounds. As an aquarium tank however, yours is brilliant and it's always been my favorite. There's just something about the elkhorn in this new version that evokes strong feelings of dislike, so I will continue enjoying your previous version until you may hopefully add an additional background to choose from. Jeremy

02-10-2009, 12:29 AM	#17
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Once I went to Paris, where I pointed out to the citizens what a lovely city it would be if not for that ugly metal tower. I showed them a picture of San Bernardino, California, which has no tower, but they still seemed unreceptive to the idea of tearing it down. They suggested that I go live in San Bernardino. The majestic Elkhorn will always stand tall. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

02-10-2009, 01:54 AM	#18
Rob62 Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 62	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Once I went to Paris, where I pointed out to the citizens what a lovely city it would be if not for that ugly metal tower. I showed them a picture of San Bernardino, California, which has no tower, but they still seemed unreceptive to the idea of tearing it down. They suggested that I go live in San Bernardino. The majestic Elkhorn will always stand tall. Jim - That is just beautiful and an excellent analogy!! For those of us who have had the honor of seeing the maturation of this artwork develop - that chunk of majestic Elkhorn has found a home in MA3, long may it stay... ~ God Bless All ~

02-10-2009, 02:02 AM	#19
Overlord Registered Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 72	You can't satisfy all of the people all of the time. I checked out the Dream Aquarium. I'm sorry but I don't like it. Will they change all the things I don't like to get me to buy it? Yeah right, hold your breath! This is Jim's baby and he still tries to bend over backwards for all of his fans. Please don't push him over the edge. He knows what he's doing and what he wants.

02-10-2009, 02:40 AM	#20
grape_jellyfish Registered Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,235	Listen, you don't tug on Superman's cape, something about not spitting in the wind, you leave the mask on the lone ranger, and above all, you DON"T mess around with Jim. No, no, no, no. Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's learning to Dance in the Rain.