Not a Bug Beta expired?

scooby · 12-29-2008, 01:19 PM

Help it says ma3 expired ?

Jav400 · 12-29-2008, 01:38 PM

Right now anything you get is in Beta testing. It is not intended to run forever. Once Jim gets things the way he wants them the last Beta version will be the live version that will run without an expiration date.

feldon34 · 12-29-2008, 01:39 PM

Did you download the latest 3.0 Beta 7n?

scooby · 12-29-2008, 02:01 PM

Hi yes i think i have just done that waiting for it to kick in now...

feldon34 · 12-29-2008, 02:26 PM

"n" runs fine for me. By the way it says 7.0m in the Stats bar at the top.

scooby · 12-29-2008, 02:29 PM

Thank you running as normal when will the final product be realesed ?

Jav400 · 12-29-2008, 03:30 PM

Only Jim knows the answer to that one.

cjmaddy · 12-29-2008, 03:40 PM

I hadn't noticed that 'n' was still showing as 'm'. But you have to go back to 'j' to find one that's expired.

Jim Sachs · 12-29-2008, 05:35 PM

Shows "n" for me when downloaded from the usual place: http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip

cjmaddy · 12-30-2008, 04:53 AM

On version 2413 of Beta7n downloaded on the 22nd it shows 'm'.

Mith · 12-30-2008, 08:06 AM

I can't recall which link I downloaded mine at, but it's "n"....

Jim Sachs · 12-30-2008, 12:10 PM

Well, it will soon be Beta8. Just finishing up the waving Sea Fan.

Yodelking · 12-30-2008, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Well, it will soon be Beta8. Just finishing up the waving Sea Fan.

COOL!! Looking forward to see this! Nice to hear you make progress on the program and not being stuck at fixing bugs!

feldon34 · 12-30-2008, 12:45 PM

Awesome!

rctneil · 12-30-2008, 01:04 PM

Excellent, can't wait! - Will it be available this evening for us UK'ers?

Jim Sachs · 12-30-2008, 02:27 PM

It's already this evening for you UK-ers. My daughter is a UK'er for the next few days - she flew there last night and is probably wandering around London right now. She's there until Jan 3, then off to South Africa.

Overlord · 12-30-2008, 03:03 PM

Jim, is the sea fan the only item you are trying right now or is there other changes in Beta 8?

Jim Sachs · 12-30-2008, 03:17 PM

I'll see how much effort is involved in moving the purple Gorgonia. If it's too much, then the moving Sea Fan and some bug fixes will be the only additions. I don't expect it to be too hard, since the preliminary work of isolating an object into its own class and finding the vertices has already been done.

feldon34 · 12-30-2008, 03:24 PM

I had to go fishing on the Coral Names thread and then some more Googling.

http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?...d-4ac323ddc6cf

Purple Gorgonia (labeled here as Corky Sea Fingers).

Something tells me there is some classification question about this coral.

Jim Sachs · 12-30-2008, 03:38 PM

There are classification questions about nearly all coral, from my experience. That MySpace shot is a good one. That's definitely the critter - too bad it's not identified.

My understanding is that all SeaFan-like creatures are Gorgonias. Though the purple one and the orange one in the tank look very different, they are actually closely related.

I tend to always think of these names as the first label I see when doing research, but they are mis-labeled so often that I'm probably wrong about half the time.

Here's a link to a site which calls this type of purple coral a Gorgonia (near the bottom of the page, under Soft Corals):
http://frontpage.simnet.is/dna/photo.htm

Also known as a Black Sea Rod Gorgonia: http://florent.us/reef/blacksearod.html

12-29-2008, 01:19 PM	#1
scooby Registered Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 19	Beta expired? Help it says ma3 expired ?

12-29-2008, 01:38 PM	#2
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Right now anything you get is in Beta testing. It is not intended to run forever. Once Jim gets things the way he wants them the last Beta version will be the live version that will run without an expiration date. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

12-29-2008, 01:39 PM	#3
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Did you download the latest 3.0 Beta 7n? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

12-29-2008, 02:26 PM	#5
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	"n" runs fine for me. By the way it says 7.0m in the Stats bar at the top. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

12-29-2008, 03:30 PM	#7
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Only Jim knows the answer to that one. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

12-29-2008, 02:01 PM	#4
scooby Registered Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 19	Hi yes i think i have just done that waiting for it to kick in now...

12-29-2008, 02:29 PM	#6
scooby Registered Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 19	Thank you running as normal when will the final product be realesed ?

12-29-2008, 03:40 PM	#8
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	I hadn't noticed that 'n' was still showing as 'm'. But you have to go back to 'j' to find one that's expired.

12-29-2008, 05:35 PM	#9
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Shows "n" for me when downloaded from the usual place: http://www.fish-byte.com/MA3Beta.zip Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

12-30-2008, 04:53 AM	#10
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	On version 2413 of Beta7n downloaded on the 22nd it shows 'm'.

12-30-2008, 08:06 AM	#11
Mith Registered Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 140	I can't recall which link I downloaded mine at, but it's "n"....

12-30-2008, 12:10 PM	#12
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Well, it will soon be Beta8. Just finishing up the waving Sea Fan. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

12-30-2008, 12:30 PM	#13
Yodelking yodeler Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Staffanstorp, Sweden Posts: 294	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Well, it will soon be Beta8. Just finishing up the waving Sea Fan. COOL!! Looking forward to see this! Nice to hear you make progress on the program and not being stuck at fixing bugs! Yodelking - För god att kolsyra!

12-30-2008, 12:45 PM	#14
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Awesome! "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

12-30-2008, 01:04 PM	#15
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	Excellent, can't wait! - Will it be available this evening for us UK'ers?

12-30-2008, 02:27 PM	#16
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	It's already this evening for you UK-ers. My daughter is a UK'er for the next few days - she flew there last night and is probably wandering around London right now. She's there until Jan 3, then off to South Africa. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

12-30-2008, 03:03 PM	#17
Overlord Registered Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 72	Jim, is the sea fan the only item you are trying right now or is there other changes in Beta 8?

12-30-2008, 03:17 PM	#18
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	I'll see how much effort is involved in moving the purple Gorgonia. If it's too much, then the moving Sea Fan and some bug fixes will be the only additions. I don't expect it to be too hard, since the preliminary work of isolating an object into its own class and finding the vertices has already been done. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

12-30-2008, 03:24 PM	#19
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	I had to go fishing on the Coral Names thread and then some more Googling. http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?...d-4ac323ddc6cf Purple Gorgonia (labeled here as Corky Sea Fingers). Something tells me there is some classification question about this coral. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

12-30-2008, 03:38 PM	#20
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	There are classification questions about nearly all coral, from my experience. That MySpace shot is a good one. That's definitely the critter - too bad it's not identified. My understanding is that all SeaFan-like creatures are Gorgonias. Though the purple one and the orange one in the tank look very different, they are actually closely related. I tend to always think of these names as the first label I see when doing research, but they are mis-labeled so often that I'm probably wrong about half the time. Here's a link to a site which calls this type of purple coral a Gorgonia (near the bottom of the page, under Soft Corals): http://frontpage.simnet.is/dna/photo.htm Also known as a Black Sea Rod Gorgonia: http://florent.us/reef/blacksearod.html Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium Last edited by Jim Sachs; 12-30-2008 at 04:52 PM.