Fixed Bug 3.0 Beta 6 Sound starts loud, goes down without changing volume

Racer-X · 10-10-2008, 07:00 PM

My system:
Dell XPS410
Vista
4 GB ram
GeForce 8600GT
Sound card: none. It's just whatever integrated stuff Dell gave me.

I preview the screensaver, and the volume starts pretty high. I press spacebar to bring up the options, click program settings, then just click on (not change) the volume slider, and the volume drops dramatically. The slider is set at about 50%, but when I start the screensaver, the volume equals that of about 100%.

Glenn

Jim Sachs · 10-10-2008, 07:02 PM

Darn, I thought I fixed that. Back to the drawing board.

Are you talking about the bubble sound or the music?

F34R · 10-10-2008, 07:26 PM

I'm using a gateway FX6860 laptop with IDT HD Audio and don't experience the OP's problem at all; not with the music, or bubbles.

Surferminn · 10-10-2008, 10:37 PM

Same thing happened to me. I turned on the bubbles and it was loud so I went to the controls and lowered it even tho it was already in the middle. Then when I turned the beta on again, it was realllly loud again and when I clicked on the volume to lower it, it lowered itself before I could move the slider to lower it. But that happened only once as described above. I've turned it on a few more times and it didn't go loud anymore... so far.

Computer: Dell Dimension 4600, ATI Radeon 9600, 1.5GB ram, Pentium 4, 2.4ghz, Windows XP Home

Jim Sachs · 10-10-2008, 10:39 PM

These intermittant problems are the most difficult, because you never know if you've actually fixed it or if it just isn't causing trouble at the moment.

Racer-X · 10-10-2008, 11:05 PM

It's not intermittent with me. It happens every time.

Glenn

troyb · 10-11-2008, 09:26 AM

I have a creative sound blaster X-fi sound card and there is no problem with the sound it stays the same if this helps you Mr. Sachs

Jim Sachs · 10-11-2008, 10:16 AM

It's a timing thing, which is different for each system. A different thread is started for the sound system, and if another thread gets ahead of it, then the volume gets set before the sound system is ready for it.

Racer-X · 10-11-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Are you talking about the bubble sound or the music?

Bubbles only. The music volume stays the same, even when I click on the bubble volume and it goes down.

Glenn

jroseone · 10-11-2008, 10:12 PM

Jim they both seem to get lower if you toggle them on and off, they start out loud but if you turn them off and then on again they are much lower.

Great work by the way, can't wait to see the finished product.

Jim Sachs · 10-11-2008, 10:23 PM

It's a timing thing with the bubble sound. I haven't had anyone else report the music coming up at a louder volume than the slider indicates. Are you positive that's the case?

jroseone · 10-11-2008, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

It's a timing thing with the bubble sound. I haven't had anyone else report the music coming up at a louder volume than the slider indicates. Are you positive that's the case?

I thought they both got lower, not louder.

They seem to be much louder at the start up, but then lower if you turn them off and then back on.

The bubbles definately do, it sounds like the music gets slightly lower but it's not nearly as noticable as the bubbles if in fact it is getting lower.

Jim Sachs · 10-11-2008, 11:03 PM

That's what I meant - the sound comes up at full volume when the program is started, then snaps back to its set volume when any sound controls are touched. If it's just the bubble sound there are some things I can try, but the music is a whole separate system, that I really don't want to spend days tearing apart if the problem isn't real.

Racer-X · 10-11-2008, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by jroseone:

The bubbles definately do, it sounds like the music gets slightly lower but it's not nearly as noticable as the bubbles if in fact it is getting lower.

I thought it was the music as well, but after listening to it carefully I realized that the music isn't changing. The volume of the song gets slightly louder as it progresses, so if you turn it off and on, it starts at the beginning again which is quieter.

For me, it's just the bubble issue. The music is fine.

Just FYI, the music starts immediately, but the bubbles don't start until the screensaver has been running for 5 seconds or so.

Glenn

Jim Sachs · 10-11-2008, 11:54 PM

Good, then it's the same bug I've been chasing.

jroseone · 10-11-2008, 11:56 PM

Yes that sounds right, sorry for the confusion.

henemly · 10-12-2008, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Racer-X:

Just FYI, the music starts immediately, but the bubbles don't start until the screensaver has been running for 5 seconds or so.
Glenn

Using Realtek audio on my sys and it does the same. (8 second delay)
ps- using custom mp3 for the music too.

DaleArden · 10-16-2008, 04:39 PM

I can't help but wonder if this is related to what I posted earlier at https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4482 , since the disturbance I hear is only in the bubble sound and I've had the 5 second delay as well .

Jim Sachs · 10-16-2008, 05:34 PM

Yes, it's the same problem.

Racer-X · 11-12-2008, 07:06 PM

Beta 6 fixes this issue for me!

10-10-2008, 07:00 PM	#1
Racer-X Out for a spin Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SF bay area Posts: 382	Sound starts loud, goes down without changing volume My system: Dell XPS410 Vista 4 GB ram GeForce 8600GT Sound card: none. It's just whatever integrated stuff Dell gave me. I preview the screensaver, and the volume starts pretty high. I press spacebar to bring up the options, click program settings, then just click on (not change) the volume slider, and the volume drops dramatically. The slider is set at about 50%, but when I start the screensaver, the volume equals that of about 100%. Glenn

10-10-2008, 07:02 PM	#2
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Darn, I thought I fixed that. Back to the drawing board. Are you talking about the bubble sound or the music? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-10-2008, 10:37 PM	#4
Surferminn Senior Puddle Jumper Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Posts: 6,017	Same thing happened to me. I turned on the bubbles and it was loud so I went to the controls and lowered it even tho it was already in the middle. Then when I turned the beta on again, it was realllly loud again and when I clicked on the volume to lower it, it lowered itself before I could move the slider to lower it. But that happened only once as described above. I've turned it on a few more times and it didn't go loud anymore... so far. Computer: Dell Dimension 4600, ATI Radeon 9600, 1.5GB ram, Pentium 4, 2.4ghz, Windows XP Home Nothing Changes if Nothing Changes.

10-10-2008, 10:39 PM	#5
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	These intermittant problems are the most difficult, because you never know if you've actually fixed it or if it just isn't causing trouble at the moment. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-11-2008, 10:16 AM	#8
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	It's a timing thing, which is different for each system. A different thread is started for the sound system, and if another thread gets ahead of it, then the volume gets set before the sound system is ready for it. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-10-2008, 07:26 PM	#3
F34R Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 53	I'm using a gateway FX6860 laptop with IDT HD Audio and don't experience the OP's problem at all; not with the music, or bubbles.

10-10-2008, 11:05 PM	#6
Racer-X Out for a spin Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SF bay area Posts: 382	It's not intermittent with me. It happens every time. Glenn

10-11-2008, 09:26 AM	#7
troyb Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 36	I have a creative sound blaster X-fi sound card and there is no problem with the sound it stays the same if this helps you Mr. Sachs

10-11-2008, 01:14 PM	#9
Racer-X Out for a spin Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SF bay area Posts: 382	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Are you talking about the bubble sound or the music? Bubbles only. The music volume stays the same, even when I click on the bubble volume and it goes down. Glenn

10-11-2008, 10:12 PM	#10
jroseone Registered Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 93	Jim they both seem to get lower if you toggle them on and off, they start out loud but if you turn them off and then on again they are much lower. Great work by the way, can't wait to see the finished product.

10-11-2008, 10:23 PM	#11
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	It's a timing thing with the bubble sound. I haven't had anyone else report the music coming up at a louder volume than the slider indicates. Are you positive that's the case? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-11-2008, 10:29 PM	#12
jroseone Registered Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 93	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: It's a timing thing with the bubble sound. I haven't had anyone else report the music coming up at a louder volume than the slider indicates. Are you positive that's the case? I thought they both got lower, not louder. They seem to be much louder at the start up, but then lower if you turn them off and then back on. The bubbles definately do, it sounds like the music gets slightly lower but it's not nearly as noticable as the bubbles if in fact it is getting lower.

10-11-2008, 11:03 PM	#13
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	That's what I meant - the sound comes up at full volume when the program is started, then snaps back to its set volume when any sound controls are touched. If it's just the bubble sound there are some things I can try, but the music is a whole separate system, that I really don't want to spend days tearing apart if the problem isn't real. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-11-2008, 11:24 PM	#14
Racer-X Out for a spin Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SF bay area Posts: 382	Originally posted by jroseone: The bubbles definately do, it sounds like the music gets slightly lower but it's not nearly as noticable as the bubbles if in fact it is getting lower. I thought it was the music as well, but after listening to it carefully I realized that the music isn't changing. The volume of the song gets slightly louder as it progresses, so if you turn it off and on, it starts at the beginning again which is quieter. For me, it's just the bubble issue. The music is fine. Just FYI, the music starts immediately, but the bubbles don't start until the screensaver has been running for 5 seconds or so. Glenn

10-11-2008, 11:54 PM	#15
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Good, then it's the same bug I've been chasing. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-11-2008, 11:56 PM	#16
jroseone Registered Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 93	Yes that sounds right, sorry for the confusion.

10-12-2008, 01:20 PM	#17
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Originally posted by Racer-X: Just FYI, the music starts immediately, but the bubbles don't start until the screensaver has been running for 5 seconds or so. Glenn Using Realtek audio on my sys and it does the same. (8 second delay) ps- using custom mp3 for the music too.

10-16-2008, 04:39 PM	#18
DaleArden carbon based unit Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 24	I can't help but wonder if this is related to what I posted earlier at https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4482 , since the disturbance I hear is only in the bubble sound and I've had the 5 second delay as well .

10-16-2008, 05:34 PM	#19
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Yes, it's the same problem. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-12-2008, 07:06 PM	#20
Racer-X Out for a spin Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SF bay area Posts: 382	Beta 6 fixes this issue for me!