Marine Aquarium 3 Rumors and Speculation - Page 79

Jim Sachs · 04-16-2008, 12:46 AM

The music routine is almost doen, so I'm not really counting that. The two major items are collision detection and user interfaces. MA2.6 did not have a 3D background, so there was nothing for the fish to hit, except each other. That rudimentary fish-to-fish collision-detection is already in MA3, but with so many fish in the tank, it's not very effective.

Tiny Turtle · 04-16-2008, 10:11 AM

Collision detection in MA3 would involve not colliding with the background objects as the fish now are allowed to swim more freely - it's a pretty vital part of it all to avoid that swim-to-the-right-and-then-back feeling of MA2...

Sorry, missed your post, Jim.

Pyros9 · 04-17-2008, 04:20 AM

Jim, I was just wondering if you knew that MA2 had been ported to a Google Gadget?
Here's the link:

Google Aquarium Gadget

Perfish · 04-17-2008, 04:28 AM

Thanks mr. Sachs for answering some questions. If there would be an option to turn off music than that would be very user-friendly.

I have another question:
together of having an option to get a logo or whatever into to the tank via the clock procedure, would it not be nice if one could slide in an 32-bit pngfile )with alphachannel) or even a complete background? In a certain area, somewhere between some rocks, with limited size. Or in the background.

Jim Sachs · 04-17-2008, 08:50 AM

Thanks Pyros9 - I've notified Prolific's lawyer.

Perfish - Just press the "M" key to turn off the music. Regarding adding your own background graphics, sorry - no.

Highlander · 04-18-2008, 10:55 AM

Hello Highlander it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?

So, Jim WHEN ?

Jim Sachs · 04-18-2008, 02:58 PM

Soon. Prolifc has just taken over the Playlist interface, which frees me to start on the dreaded Coliision Avoidance System.

igohigh · 04-19-2008, 01:40 PM

Long time no see! And with M3 just on the horizon as well!!

Now about this Music option, Belay yer caterwall'n 'n complain'n, it be an 'option' 'n options be a good thing in deed!
I likes the idea o' play'n some melodies whilst the fish dance 'n swim. I likes better the idea o' a playlist so I could plug in some o' me favorite MP3 ballets from the Jolly Rogers 'n others; 'Black Jack Slim's Cutthroat Inn', 'Queen Fairy', 'The Dark Lady', 'Pirate Lullaby', 'Pirate Annies Chest', 'Mingulay boat song', 'Never Sea Land', 'Jolly Rovin Tar', 'n even 'The Mermaid Song'.

I like the music on the home computer however of course at work it can be turned off....that thar be the whole concept "an option".

....now how about that beautiful siren what who can make an occasional cameo swim across the screen?

cjmaddy · 04-19-2008, 03:27 PM

No on yer's complanin bout yon options. Tis them as don't recon to sort owt yer option from yer default as causin owt fuss!

Doubt Jim'll povide yer titilation though,

... but tha never knows!

Yellow Tang · 04-21-2008, 07:10 AM

You are right. It is almost unreadable!

igohigh · 04-21-2008, 08:11 PM

defaults, Bah! What lubbers would run a ship with 'defaults' anywho? Why th' first thing t' do with any application is t' dig in and rip out the haul 'n customize it fer yer own self and dirty deeds!

Why me own M2.6, she flies several flags in her clock 'n from time t' time I still digs in 'n changes settings, just fer a change o' time 'r weather.

Now fer the fine scaly beauty, perhaps if'n we takes ol' Jim down t' the water front fer a pint o' rum 'r two, when th' sirens begin for t' sing their songs o' sweet ol' Jim'll come 'round, he just might
;p

feldon34 · 04-22-2008, 09:29 AM

I would guess that 98% of SS Aquarium users have no idea they can press the SPACE bar to bring up a Settings window.

igohigh · 04-22-2008, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by feldon32:

I would guess that 98% of SS Aquarium users have no idea they can press the SPACE bar to bring up a Settings window.

Well not anymore feldon32, ye just bloody blabbed it all o'r th' internet!!

I suppose next we be put'n a big Red 'X' in th' corner with a dotted trail leadin' right to it?!

"Dying's the easy way out. You won't catch me dying. They'll have to kill me before I die!

Ad_Enuff · 04-25-2008, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by Pyros9:

Jim, I was just wondering if you knew that MA2 had been ported to a Google Gadget?
Here's the link:

Google Aquarium Gadget

That's the most cheekiest pee take I've seen in a long time.....

No wonder it has a few bugs in it since it's been ripped apart and put together as a Google gadget.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Prolific's lawyers get their hands on it....

debavocet · 04-26-2008, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Just press the "M" key to turn off the music.

I'm having a problem with the default in MA 3. If I understand it right, the music will come on with the screensaver and we must press the "M" key to shut it off. I'm not looking forward to hearing Pachelbel every day, every time, and coming from other rooms to shut it off. Why not make the bubbles the default and press "M" to turn ON the music option? (I'll admit leaning toward a natural sounding aquarium.)

Even better, can users use the Settings to set our own default - bubbles, the music, or no sound? I think that's the most user-friendly.

Jim Sachs · 04-26-2008, 02:46 PM

Pressing the M key turns off the music, and it stays that way until you press the M key again or checkmark the box in settings.

ATTENTION EVERYONE **** IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ****

THIS SETTING IS REMEMBERED BY THE PROGRAM.
THE MUSIC WILL NEVER COME ON AGAIN UNLESS YOU TURN IT ON (or delete the Registry entry).
ONCE YOU PRESS THE M KEY, YOU WILL NEVER HEAR MUSIC AGAIN UNTIL YOU PRESS THAT KEY AGAIN (or checkmark the box in settings).
PRESSING the M KEY THE VERY FIRST TIME YOU START MA3 WILL GIVE YOU A LIFETIME OF MUSIC-FREE ENJOYMENT!
THIS SETTING IS REMEMBERED BY THE PROGRAM.

*** END OF IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ***
(Sorry, Deb - but this has just come up one time too many

)

You will be able to turn on music, bubbles, both, or neither. If you place any of your own music into the Playlist, then that becomes the default music.

The reason for having music as the default setting is so that people will know that the program now does music. (But ONLY if they want it to!)

debavocet · 04-26-2008, 06:26 PM

Thanks for making this clear to us - very clear!
Some of us were a little confused and thought we might have to shut off the music every time the screensaver came on.
Promise I won't pester you about music again.

igohigh · 04-26-2008, 11:55 PM

hmmm, now if I can just get the fish to 'dance' to the music

a whole school of fish dancing to the River Song 8o

Jim Sachs · 04-27-2008, 01:21 AM

Ain't gonna happen here.

valeryan · 04-27-2008, 11:47 PM

Wow! I have not ran my aquarium in a while but I just got a new system and it came with a really nice 22 inch widescreen monitor. I thought to my self this monitor would be amazing with MA on it. so I wondered by to download 2.6 only to find out that a new version is being developed. It reminded me of the happy days of beta testing. Hey Jim I am glad to know you are still around and doing your thing and its cool to see that this place is still kicking. I really look forward to seeing MA 3 on this aweosome monitor. How do we find information about beta testing?

04-16-2008, 12:46 AM	#1561
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	The music routine is almost doen, so I'm not really counting that. The two major items are collision detection and user interfaces. MA2.6 did not have a 3D background, so there was nothing for the fish to hit, except each other. That rudimentary fish-to-fish collision-detection is already in MA3, but with so many fish in the tank, it's not very effective. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-16-2008, 10:11 AM	#1562
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Collision detection in MA3 would involve not colliding with the background objects as the fish now are allowed to swim more freely - it's a pretty vital part of it all to avoid that swim-to-the-right-and-then-back feeling of MA2... Sorry, missed your post, Jim. Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history. Last edited by Tiny Turtle; 04-16-2008 at 06:36 PM.

04-17-2008, 04:20 AM	#1563
Pyros9 Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 49	Ported to Google Gadget Jim, I was just wondering if you knew that MA2 had been ported to a Google Gadget? Here's the link: Google Aquarium Gadget Doug................(Pyros9) www.faddis.net My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dogs think I am.

04-17-2008, 04:28 AM	#1564
Perfish Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4	Sound and Vision Thanks mr. Sachs for answering some questions. If there would be an option to turn off music than that would be very user-friendly. I have another question: together of having an option to get a logo or whatever into to the tank via the clock procedure, would it not be nice if one could slide in an 32-bit pngfile )with alphachannel) or even a complete background? In a certain area, somewhere between some rocks, with limited size. Or in the background.

04-17-2008, 08:50 AM	#1565
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Thanks Pyros9 - I've notified Prolific's lawyer. Perfish - Just press the "M" key to turn off the music. Regarding adding your own background graphics, sorry - no. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-18-2008, 10:55 AM	#1566
Highlander Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 87	Hello Highlander it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums? So, Jim WHEN ? Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups !

04-18-2008, 02:58 PM	#1567
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Soon. Prolifc has just taken over the Playlist interface, which frees me to start on the dreaded Coliision Avoidance System. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-19-2008, 01:40 PM	#1568
igohigh Registered Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: California Posts: 25	Avast ye scallywags 'n scoudrals! Long time no see! And with M3 just on the horizon as well!! Now about this Music option, Belay yer caterwall'n 'n complain'n, it be an 'option' 'n options be a good thing in deed! I likes the idea o' play'n some melodies whilst the fish dance 'n swim. I likes better the idea o' a playlist so I could plug in some o' me favorite MP3 ballets from the Jolly Rogers 'n others; 'Black Jack Slim's Cutthroat Inn', 'Queen Fairy', 'The Dark Lady', 'Pirate Lullaby', 'Pirate Annies Chest', 'Mingulay boat song', 'Never Sea Land', 'Jolly Rovin Tar', 'n even 'The Mermaid Song'. I like the music on the home computer however of course at work it can be turned off....that thar be the whole concept "an option". ....now how about that beautiful siren what who can make an occasional cameo swim across the screen? Vultures take the easy prey, Hunters take the prize! ~The Jolly Rogers

04-19-2008, 03:27 PM	#1569
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	No on yer's complanin bout yon options. Tis them as don't recon to sort owt yer option from yer default as causin owt fuss! Doubt Jim'll povide yer titilation though, ... but tha never knows!

04-21-2008, 07:10 AM	#1570
Yellow Tang YT Join Date: Jan 2002 Tournaments Won: 1 Location: Germany Posts: 729	You are right. It is almost unreadable!

04-21-2008, 08:11 PM	#1571
igohigh Registered Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: California Posts: 25	Blast th' the defaults! defaults, Bah! What lubbers would run a ship with 'defaults' anywho? Why th' first thing t' do with any application is t' dig in and rip out the haul 'n customize it fer yer own self and dirty deeds! Why me own M2.6, she flies several flags in her clock 'n from time t' time I still digs in 'n changes settings, just fer a change o' time 'r weather. Now fer the fine scaly beauty, perhaps if'n we takes ol' Jim down t' the water front fer a pint o' rum 'r two, when th' sirens begin for t' sing their songs o' sweet ol' Jim'll come 'round, he just might ;p Vultures take the easy prey, Hunters take the prize! ~The Jolly Rogers

04-22-2008, 09:29 AM	#1572
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	I would guess that 98% of SS Aquarium users have no idea they can press the SPACE bar to bring up a Settings window. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-22-2008, 09:11 PM	#1573
igohigh Registered Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: California Posts: 25	Originally posted by feldon32: I would guess that 98% of SS Aquarium users have no idea they can press the SPACE bar to bring up a Settings window. Well not anymore feldon32, ye just bloody blabbed it all o'r th' internet!! I suppose next we be put'n a big Red 'X' in th' corner with a dotted trail leadin' right to it?! "Dying's the easy way out. You won't catch me dying. They'll have to kill me before I die! Vultures take the easy prey, Hunters take the prize! ~The Jolly Rogers

04-25-2008, 05:34 AM	#1574
Ad_Enuff Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 99	Originally posted by Pyros9: Jim, I was just wondering if you knew that MA2 had been ported to a Google Gadget? Here's the link: Google Aquarium Gadget That's the most cheekiest pee take I've seen in a long time..... No wonder it has a few bugs in it since it's been ripped apart and put together as a Google gadget. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Prolific's lawyers get their hands on it.... AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 3600.0 MHz, 16Gb DDR4 RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, 4Gb RAM, Windows 10 PRO 64Bit

04-26-2008, 02:19 PM	#1575
debavocet Welcome to the Quack House! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 56	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Just press the "M" key to turn off the music. I'm having a problem with the default in MA 3. If I understand it right, the music will come on with the screensaver and we must press the "M" key to shut it off. I'm not looking forward to hearing Pachelbel every day, every time, and coming from other rooms to shut it off. Why not make the bubbles the default and press "M" to turn ON the music option? (I'll admit leaning toward a natural sounding aquarium.) Even better, can users use the Settings to set our own default - bubbles, the music, or no sound? I think that's the most user-friendly. Quack - debavocet http://www.stratacafe.com/member.asp?ID=8929&page=1

04-26-2008, 02:46 PM	#1576
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Pressing the M key turns off the music, and it stays that way until you press the M key again or checkmark the box in settings. ATTENTION EVERYONE ** IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT THIS SETTING IS REMEMBERED BY THE PROGRAM. THE MUSIC WILL NEVER COME ON AGAIN UNLESS YOU TURN IT ON (or delete the Registry entry). ONCE YOU PRESS THE M KEY, YOU WILL NEVER HEAR MUSIC AGAIN UNTIL YOU PRESS THAT KEY AGAIN (or checkmark the box in settings). PRESSING the M KEY THE VERY FIRST TIME YOU START MA3 WILL GIVE YOU A LIFETIME OF MUSIC-FREE ENJOYMENT! THIS SETTING IS REMEMBERED BY THE PROGRAM. * END OF IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT * (Sorry, Deb - but this has just come up one time too many ) You will be able to turn on music, bubbles, both, or neither. If you place any of your own music into the Playlist, then that becomes the default music. The reason for having music as the default setting is so that people will know that the program now does music. (But ONLY if they want it to!) Jim Sachs** Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-26-2008, 06:26 PM	#1577
debavocet Welcome to the Quack House! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 56	Thanks for making this clear to us - very clear! Some of us were a little confused and thought we might have to shut off the music every time the screensaver came on. Promise I won't pester you about music again. Quack - debavocet http://www.stratacafe.com/member.asp?ID=8929&page=1

04-26-2008, 11:55 PM	#1578
igohigh Registered Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: California Posts: 25	dancing fish hmmm, now if I can just get the fish to 'dance' to the music a whole school of fish dancing to the River Song 8o Vultures take the easy prey, Hunters take the prize! ~The Jolly Rogers

04-27-2008, 01:21 AM	#1579
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Ain't gonna happen here. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-27-2008, 11:47 PM	#1580
valeryan Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Camden, AR Posts: 10	I return Wow! I have not ran my aquarium in a while but I just got a new system and it came with a really nice 22 inch widescreen monitor. I thought to my self this monitor would be amazing with MA on it. so I wondered by to download 2.6 only to find out that a new version is being developed. It reminded me of the happy days of beta testing. Hey Jim I am glad to know you are still around and doing your thing and its cool to see that this place is still kicking. I really look forward to seeing MA 3 on this aweosome monitor. How do we find information about beta testing? Eternally Someone Else