Dual Monitor Support? - Page 2

07-30-2002, 08:05 AM

Awsome. I get 35-36 fps with a dual 450.

08-06-2002, 09:35 PM

Please set it up so that both monitors act as one aquarium and the fish could swim from one monitor to the other!! That would be the coolest thing ever.

feldon34 · 08-06-2002, 09:52 PM

I'd hate to see the coral stretched out that wide.

Reichart · 08-06-2002, 09:52 PM

Yes it would. We all want this too. But it is a bigger task than it seems. We will do this one day. I have two monitors, and you don't get better service than self service.

bond2 · 08-07-2002, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by feldon23
I'd hate to see the coral stretched out that wide.

Why would the coral be stretched, obviously they would add more different types of coral maybe even some cool underwater ferns or plants. The same movement that is used in the fish could essential be used in some greenery that could sway back and forth. As graphics cards are becoming better and better the possibilities of how realistic this screen saver could be are endless.

Tiny Turtle · 08-07-2002, 04:37 PM

...some cool underwater ferns or plants...

– Wouldn't those fit better in a freshwater aquarium?

/TT

feldon34 · 08-07-2002, 05:14 PM

Why would the coral be stretched, obviously they would add more different types of coral maybe even some cool underwater ferns or plants. The same movement that is used in the fish could essential be used in some greenery that could sway back and forth.

If by "they", you mean Jim Sachs, the author, artist, graphic designer, and programmer of the Aquarium, he's going to add a 3D background similar to how you describe in the next year or so.

thanatos2k · 08-15-2002, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Reichart
Supporting Dual monitors is VERY tricky. We are working on both Mac and PC.

Here are the modes:

Multi-Monitor: Meaning 2 or more, of differing resolutions. Each can have completely different images.

Stretched: One video card, multiple monitors, both the same res. This one is annoying.

Cloned (mirrored): Copies what is one, to another. In some cases there are special versions of Cloning where the main monitor is full res, and VIDEO can be displayed at full res while being a window on the main one.

Vertical: Monitors that pivot. They are a sub-section for us of the multiple monitor issue.

Yes, it would be WONDERFUL to have a huge tank, that could be displayed across multiple monitors, and the fish could move from monitor to monitor. And, one day we will do this. But it requires a rebuild of the code. Also, this eats up an AMAZING amount of CPU time.

This product, and product line is constantly growing. We are working VERY hard to improve things for the future, and enable our team to make incremental improvements more easily (like new fish).

We plan to please, but ask for patience.

Multi-Monitor is something you are working on? So 2, 3, ..., n monitors? I am running 4 panels right now, 2 above 2. I am considering adding 2 more for 3 above 3. Will the rewrite take into account the POSITION of multiple monitors? I.e., will I have ground on the 2 monitors that are on top? Or will it built a bigger, virtual aquarium based on the coordinates of the windows extended desktop and display the parts of the aquarium that fall within a physical monitor? FYI, considering the quality of the graphics and program, I would be willing to pay $75-$100 for the program if it had those capabilities and included an appropriate number of simultaneous fish.

Reichart · 08-15-2002, 03:41 PM

We might support a virtual to physical monitor position system one day.

I wrote up a concept for an interface last year. We might use it for a new product we are working on. Therefore I cannot describe it.

But thanks you for placing a value on this feature. Lets hope OS companies start supporting Dual monitors better quickly.

It is a feature that will quickly become important.

feldon34 · 08-15-2002, 04:58 PM

Well fortunately, Mac OS has supported multiple displays since 1988.

wmdonnelly · 10-18-2002, 07:36 PM

I'm using a 800MHz Quicksilver PowerMac G4, with an ATI Radeon 8500 driving two monitors. I can place the aquarium on either monitor, but the "Use Multiple Monitors" button is always greyed out. Is there some trick to activating multiple monitor support, or is the Radeon 8500 not supported in dual-head mode ?

Thanks,
Bill Donnelly

JimO'Connor · 10-19-2002, 09:01 AM

Multi-monitor is available in the screen saver, not the application on OS X. The envisioned usage of full screen on the app is to watch the aquarium while doing work. Having MA App full screen on both monitors makes it hard to do work, so you'd probably want to use the screen saver for that, activated through a hot corner.

10-19-2002, 11:24 PM

I'm extremly impressed with how well this graphic looks and works.
I've owned real salt water tanks before, and I have to say this is just beautiful, obviously alot less work, and extremly environmentaly safe! No need to drug and snatch the poor guys from there natural habitat! Great job!
I can't wait to see a snowflake Eel, a Pufferfish, an Octopus, the posabilitys are endless!!!
One sugestion that would really complete the realizm of the tank, is to see a little motion in the
live corals, I can't remember exactly the name of them, but there the ones the Clownfish swim in.... Just and added suggestion to an allready wonderful animation!
Thanks again.

07-30-2002, 08:05 AM	#21
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	Cool. Awsome. I get 35-36 fps with a dual 450.

08-06-2002, 09:35 PM	#22
bond2 Guest Posts: n/a	Dual Monitor Support Please set it up so that both monitors act as one aquarium and the fish could swim from one monitor to the other!! That would be the coolest thing ever.

08-06-2002, 09:52 PM	#23
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	I'd hate to see the coral stretched out that wide. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

08-06-2002, 09:52 PM	#24
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	Yes it would. We all want this too. But it is a bigger task than it seems. We will do this one day. I have two monitors, and you don't get better service than self service. *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

08-07-2002, 02:40 PM	#25
bond2 Registered Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 2	Stretched out?? Originally posted by feldon23 I'd hate to see the coral stretched out that wide. Why would the coral be stretched, obviously they would add more different types of coral maybe even some cool underwater ferns or plants. The same movement that is used in the fish could essential be used in some greenery that could sway back and forth. As graphics cards are becoming better and better the possibilities of how realistic this screen saver could be are endless. G4 400 w/ Dual Display Rage 128 & Radeon 7000 832mb Ram http://homepage.mac.com/bond2

08-07-2002, 04:37 PM	#26
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	...some cool underwater ferns or plants... – Wouldn't those fit better in a freshwater aquarium? /TT

08-07-2002, 05:14 PM	#27
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	Why would the coral be stretched, obviously they would add more different types of coral maybe even some cool underwater ferns or plants. The same movement that is used in the fish could essential be used in some greenery that could sway back and forth. If by "they", you mean Jim Sachs, the author, artist, graphic designer, and programmer of the Aquarium, he's going to add a 3D background similar to how you describe in the next year or so. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

08-15-2002, 02:26 PM	#28
thanatos2k Registered Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1	Re: Dual pain Originally posted by Reichart Supporting Dual monitors is VERY tricky. We are working on both Mac and PC. Here are the modes: Multi-Monitor: Meaning 2 or more, of differing resolutions. Each can have completely different images. Stretched: One video card, multiple monitors, both the same res. This one is annoying. Cloned (mirrored): Copies what is one, to another. In some cases there are special versions of Cloning where the main monitor is full res, and VIDEO can be displayed at full res while being a window on the main one. Vertical: Monitors that pivot. They are a sub-section for us of the multiple monitor issue. Yes, it would be WONDERFUL to have a huge tank, that could be displayed across multiple monitors, and the fish could move from monitor to monitor. And, one day we will do this. But it requires a rebuild of the code. Also, this eats up an AMAZING amount of CPU time. This product, and product line is constantly growing. We are working VERY hard to improve things for the future, and enable our team to make incremental improvements more easily (like new fish). We plan to please, but ask for patience. Multi-Monitor is something you are working on? So 2, 3, ..., n monitors? I am running 4 panels right now, 2 above 2. I am considering adding 2 more for 3 above 3. Will the rewrite take into account the POSITION of multiple monitors? I.e., will I have ground on the 2 monitors that are on top? Or will it built a bigger, virtual aquarium based on the coordinates of the windows extended desktop and display the parts of the aquarium that fall within a physical monitor? FYI, considering the quality of the graphics and program, I would be willing to pay $75-$100 for the program if it had those capabilities and included an appropriate number of simultaneous fish. --- Thanatos2k

08-15-2002, 03:41 PM	#29
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	2x2, up down side by side. We might support a virtual to physical monitor position system one day. I wrote up a concept for an interface last year. We might use it for a new product we are working on. Therefore I cannot describe it. But thanks you for placing a value on this feature. Lets hope OS companies start supporting Dual monitors better quickly. It is a feature that will quickly become important. *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

08-15-2002, 04:58 PM	#30
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	Well fortunately, Mac OS has supported multiple displays since 1988. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-18-2002, 07:36 PM	#31
wmdonnelly Registered Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1	I'm using a 800MHz Quicksilver PowerMac G4, with an ATI Radeon 8500 driving two monitors. I can place the aquarium on either monitor, but the "Use Multiple Monitors" button is always greyed out. Is there some trick to activating multiple monitor support, or is the Radeon 8500 not supported in dual-head mode ? Thanks, Bill Donnelly

10-19-2002, 09:01 AM	#32
JimO'Connor Mac Development Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kenai, Alaska Posts: 678	Multi-monitor is available in the screen saver, not the application on OS X. The envisioned usage of full screen on the app is to watch the aquarium while doing work. Having MA App full screen on both monitors makes it hard to do work, so you'd probably want to use the screen saver for that, activated through a hot corner. Jim O'Connor Order N Development

10-19-2002, 11:24 PM	#33
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	I'm extremly impressed with how well this graphic looks and works. I've owned real salt water tanks before, and I have to say this is just beautiful, obviously alot less work, and extremly environmentaly safe! No need to drug and snatch the poor guys from there natural habitat! Great job! I can't wait to see a snowflake Eel, a Pufferfish, an Octopus, the posabilitys are endless!!! One sugestion that would really complete the realizm of the tank, is to see a little motion in the live corals, I can't remember exactly the name of them, but there the ones the Clownfish swim in.... Just and added suggestion to an allready wonderful animation! Thanks again.