Lionfish without blue background?

Panthera · 03-03-2003, 08:05 PM

I was wondering if there was any way to have or download the lionfish with the 0.99L version? I upgraded to v1.1 but I didnt care too much for the dark blue background.. i really liked the v0.99L background as it turns green/blue and not all dark blue. Is this something that is possible? Thank you.

Jav400 · 03-03-2003, 08:18 PM

The Lionfish is not a downloadable "fish". It is part of the whole of Serenescreen. But, you can adjust the background by using the arrow keys while the aquarium is running. Hopefully you can find the background color you like by this process.

Panthera · 03-03-2003, 08:25 PM

AHH ok

Thanks!

feldon34 · 03-03-2003, 11:43 PM

Wow. This is the first negative comment I've heard on the background in 1.0/1.1.

I run mine deep blue.

At the risk of feature creep, maybe this is something Prolific could put into the settings panel.

cjmaddy · 03-04-2003, 03:46 AM

Well here's the second!

I too like to run mine VERY deep blue, particularly for MAT.

But I liked the blue/green background better!

But, you can adjust the background by using the arrow keys while the aquarium is running. Hopefully you can find the background color you like by this process.

Not as good as the old background, Michael. (IMHO of course!)

Jav400 · 03-04-2003, 06:22 AM

WOW 2x.

Thats the only 2 times that I have seen someone say that they didn't like the deep blue as well as the old background color.

feldon34 · 03-04-2003, 08:13 AM

All my opinions...

The previous color scheme ranged from black, to mud, to dark green, to retina-piercing green.

The new color scheme ranges from black, to a beautiful navy blue, to dark aqua, to the aforementioned bright green.

Tiny Turtle · 03-04-2003, 09:15 AM

– But the green is still retina-piercing, then?

/Tiny Rephrasing

cjmaddy · 03-04-2003, 09:44 AM

More opinions ....

Sorry if I've touched a nerve, not my intention, just that I had always thought the new colours were lacking that beautiful transition through dark blue/green, but no big deal, I love the VERY dark blue nearly as much!

For those that can't remember ...... ( ..... on second thoughts, perhaps a tad muddy?

)

Jim Sachs · 03-04-2003, 09:48 AM

I changed the lower-end colors to be on the blue side instead of muddy. User opinion seems to be running about 50,000 to 2 in favor of this.

feldon34 · 03-04-2003, 10:26 AM

Cliff,

That is, in my humble opinion, mud.

Now what button do I press here to get a background JPEG?

/me resurrects an old prototype picture. I would love to see this still as my backdrop...

https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/...idescreen2.jpg
https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/...PlusMockup.jpg

In both cases, I would be perfectly happy with these simply fading up and down slightly.

NOTE: These are NOT real products!! They are prototypes!!

Derrek · 03-04-2003, 10:38 AM

I love the 2nd pic, it would be really cool if you could get the surface of the water to move.

feldon34 · 03-04-2003, 10:44 AM

Well, that's why Jim won't do this.

He wouldn't be happy until the water rippled and had PERFECT reflections and lighting, which has NEVER been done in real-time 3D on any PC that I've seen and would take probably a year for Jim to write.

So scratch that one.

Jim Sachs · 03-04-2003, 11:04 AM

Exactly.

IXNAY · 03-04-2003, 11:12 AM

Hm, I like those pics.
A pic behind the corals isn't that bad, look at the simaquarium, that's a lot better than Jim's I think. I looks much more realistic then a changing backgroundcolour. Can someone make a poll about that? I think I'm not alone with that...

Jim Sachs · 03-04-2003, 01:00 PM

The point is, it would have to move to be realistic, and that's just not possible yet. Remember, this is an aquarium, not a reef.

feldon34 · 03-04-2003, 02:09 PM

If I had a real Aquarium, I would have SOMETHING back there.

cjmaddy · 03-04-2003, 03:08 PM

OK,OK! - If I'm 1:25,000, - I know when I'm out of step

- (after all, I DO like the dark blue background!

)

But please, please, please, NO blurry pic behind the coral a la sim-aquarium, - now that really would be a

Sorry IXNAY, but in my opinion, "much more realistic", it ain't!

Morgan, In my real aquarium, guess what I had back there! ......... A piece of dark blue cloth!

- (looked great!)

Derrek · 03-04-2003, 05:35 PM

I don't own a reef set-up (I only have freshwater) but the ones I've seen usually have the reef built up the back wall almost to the top.

Digital Lungfish · 03-05-2003, 01:05 AM

If I had a real Aquarium, I would have SOMETHING back there

I used to be of that mentality myself, but these days, I would probably switch back and forth on occasion depending on my mood.

Jim,

Just a couple of thoughts here, but would either of these ideas be feasible for the SSA and/or Freshwater versions as an option to the existing background functionality?

- Allow users to choose from 3-5 background images supplied by you Jim (images NOT requiring any 3D animation)

- Allow users to choose from ANY background image by browsing what's on their hard drive

Couple either one of the above with the current background functionality and it would be a nice change, but you tell me if it's even something you would consider, Jim. Unless of course you already have plans for the 3D background to have the reef built up along the back wall almost to the top (similar to what Derrek described)?

03-03-2003, 08:05 PM	#1
Panthera Hygenius Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,638	lionfish I was wondering if there was any way to have or download the lionfish with the 0.99L version? I upgraded to v1.1 but I didnt care too much for the dark blue background.. i really liked the v0.99L background as it turns green/blue and not all dark blue. Is this something that is possible? Thank you.

03-03-2003, 08:18 PM	#2
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	The Lionfish is not a downloadable "fish". It is part of the whole of Serenescreen. But, you can adjust the background by using the arrow keys while the aquarium is running. Hopefully you can find the background color you like by this process. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-03-2003, 11:43 PM	#4
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	Wow. This is the first negative comment I've heard on the background in 1.0/1.1. I run mine deep blue. At the risk of feature creep, maybe this is something Prolific could put into the settings panel. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-04-2003, 06:22 AM	#6
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	WOW 2x. Thats the only 2 times that I have seen someone say that they didn't like the deep blue as well as the old background color. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-04-2003, 08:13 AM	#7
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	All my opinions... The previous color scheme ranged from black, to mud, to dark green, to retina-piercing green. The new color scheme ranges from black, to a beautiful navy blue, to dark aqua, to the aforementioned bright green. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-03-2003, 08:25 PM	#3
Panthera Hygenius Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,638	AHH ok Thanks!

03-04-2003, 03:46 AM	#5
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Well here's the second! I too like to run mine VERY deep blue, particularly for MAT. But I liked the blue/green background better! But, you can adjust the background by using the arrow keys while the aquarium is running. Hopefully you can find the background color you like by this process. Not as good as the old background, Michael. (IMHO of course!)

03-04-2003, 09:15 AM	#8
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	– But the green is still retina-piercing, then? /Tiny Rephrasing Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

03-04-2003, 09:48 AM	#10
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	I changed the lower-end colors to be on the blue side instead of muddy. User opinion seems to be running about 50,000 to 2 in favor of this. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-04-2003, 10:26 AM	#11
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	Cliff, That is, in my humble opinion, mud. Now what button do I press here to get a background JPEG? /me resurrects an old prototype picture. I would love to see this still as my backdrop... https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/...idescreen2.jpg https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/...PlusMockup.jpg In both cases, I would be perfectly happy with these simply fading up and down slightly. NOTE: These are NOT real products!! They are prototypes!! "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-04-2003, 10:38 AM	#12
Derrek Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 186	I love the 2nd pic, it would be really cool if you could get the surface of the water to move.

03-04-2003, 10:44 AM	#13
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	Well, that's why Jim won't do this. He wouldn't be happy until the water rippled and had PERFECT reflections and lighting, which has NEVER been done in real-time 3D on any PC that I've seen and would take probably a year for Jim to write. So scratch that one. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-04-2003, 11:04 AM	#14
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	Exactly. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-04-2003, 11:12 AM	#15
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Hm, I like those pics. A pic behind the corals isn't that bad, look at the simaquarium, that's a lot better than Jim's I think. I looks much more realistic then a changing backgroundcolour. Can someone make a poll about that? I think I'm not alone with that... IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

03-04-2003, 01:00 PM	#16
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	The point is, it would have to move to be realistic, and that's just not possible yet. Remember, this is an aquarium, not a reef. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-04-2003, 02:09 PM	#17
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	If I had a real Aquarium, I would have SOMETHING back there. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-04-2003, 03:08 PM	#18
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	OK,OK! - If I'm 1:25,000, - I know when I'm out of step - (after all, I DO like the dark blue background! ) But please, please, please, NO blurry pic behind the coral a la sim-aquarium, - now that really would be a Sorry IXNAY, but in my opinion, "much more realistic", it ain't! Morgan, In my real aquarium, guess what I had back there! ......... A piece of dark blue cloth! - (looked great!)

03-04-2003, 05:35 PM	#19
Derrek Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 186	I don't own a reef set-up (I only have freshwater) but the ones I've seen usually have the reef built up the back wall almost to the top.

03-05-2003, 01:05 AM	#20
Digital Lungfish Obey the toad! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,557	If I had a real Aquarium, I would have SOMETHING back there I used to be of that mentality myself, but these days, I would probably switch back and forth on occasion depending on my mood. Jim, Just a couple of thoughts here, but would either of these ideas be feasible for the SSA and/or Freshwater versions as an option to the existing background functionality? - Allow users to choose from 3-5 background images supplied by you Jim (images NOT requiring any 3D animation) - Allow users to choose from ANY background image by browsing what's on their hard drive Couple either one of the above with the current background functionality and it would be a nice change, but you tell me if it's even something you would consider, Jim. Unless of course you already have plans for the 3D background to have the reef built up along the back wall almost to the top (similar to what Derrek described)? Steve www.tron-sector.com - www.badcartridge.com - www.classicgaming.com - www.dinofish.com Today is the tomorrow you were worried about yesterday...