Disney strikes again

Jim Sachs · 01-29-2004, 06:16 PM

This time the Aquarium was used as a giant backdrop behind a dance performance at the new Disney Theater in L.A. Nobody bothered to inform me about this. It might have been nice to go to the performance, or at least take a pic or two during rehearsals. Article is from the Jan 17 L.A. Times.

James · 01-29-2004, 06:28 PM

WOW......so big.....did they mention you in credit or anywhere?

Jim Sachs · 01-29-2004, 06:32 PM

Nope.

grape_jellyfish · 01-29-2004, 07:54 PM

So I guess people will assume its a Disney invention.

ESHIREY · 01-29-2004, 08:08 PM

Now that just p---es me off about that .

Can't you do something leagal about that ? This is bull .

01-30-2004, 12:19 AM

Ditto. There has to be some recourse. Maybe you should call Pixar.

drfish · 01-30-2004, 05:14 AM

There seriously must be something you can do about all this (meaing the other times we've seen it used with due credit)... If Microsoft can file suit against Mike Rowe then you've got to be able to at least get credit for your creation...

Of course, I've done a similar thing, I've run the aquarium on the projector in our conferance room a couple times before meetings (yes, we have an office copy) while people were being seated... I tell people you made it when (not if) they ask, but I don't go out of the way to let people know...

Tiny Turtle · 01-30-2004, 05:51 AM

I've commented on this topic previously, but then it has always been something minor in the background like on a monitor shown a second or two on a TV show (ok, more on that reality TV crap), but this time I think it's more like props or set design (my English fails me somewhat here). Anybody want to guess what Disney/Pixar would've done if they had played Finding Nemo in the background instead?

/Tiny Rowe

Jav400 · 01-30-2004, 06:40 AM

Well I hate that reality TV "crap" as Tiny calls it, so I missed that one. But this one does seem a little over the top, not to have an credit given at all.

feldon34 · 01-30-2004, 09:57 AM

The copyright notice on the Aquarium box should have clearly said "Public exhibition is prohibited without written permission from the publisher."

Then if someone wants to license the rights to exhibit it, they can.

Jav400 · 01-30-2004, 10:00 AM

Add that to future releases.

01-30-2004, 10:55 AM

There is that FBI warning at the beginning of DVDs. It seems like this should fall under the same rules. You can't show a DVD and charge people to see it. Disney I'm sure charged an admission for that event, and people were definitely seeing the MA in all its glory. Isn't anyone here on the forum a lawyer?

Jim Sachs · 01-30-2004, 11:12 AM

Gee, I hope not.

01-30-2004, 11:15 AM

Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to insult anyone.

cjmaddy · 01-30-2004, 12:09 PM

Are we talking about a still image, - or did they use the DVD?

The copyright notice (FBI warning) that Clint referred to IS on the Aquarium DVD, - I've just checked it! - but it only stays on screen for a moment!

If they used the DVD there must surely be something that could be done!

feldon34 · 01-30-2004, 12:35 PM

I doubt they used a 640x480 DVD on a projection that tall.

Jim Sachs · 01-30-2004, 01:05 PM

I don't really know. I'm assuming they had a computer hooked up to a hi-res projection system. No one at Prolific knew about this either.

feldon34 · 01-30-2004, 01:30 PM

They are using one of Ken's fish, so it can't be the DVD. Plus I doubt they'd zoom 640x480 up to that size.

01-29-2004, 06:28 PM	#2
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	WOW......so big.....did they mention you in credit or anywhere? James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

01-29-2004, 06:32 PM	#3
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	Nope. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-29-2004, 07:54 PM	#4
grape_jellyfish Registered Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,235	So I guess people will assume its a Disney invention. Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's learning to Dance in the Rain.

01-29-2004, 08:08 PM	#5
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	Now that just p---es me off about that . Can't you do something leagal about that ? This is bull . Thank you for taking the time to read this.

01-30-2004, 05:14 AM	#7
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,353	There seriously must be something you can do about all this (meaing the other times we've seen it used with due credit)... If Microsoft can file suit against Mike Rowe then you've got to be able to at least get credit for your creation... Of course, I've done a similar thing, I've run the aquarium on the projector in our conferance room a couple times before meetings (yes, we have an office copy) while people were being seated... I tell people you made it when (not if) they ask, but I don't go out of the way to let people know... I don't watch commercials.

01-30-2004, 12:19 AM	#6
klyntun Guest Posts: n/a	Ditto. There has to be some recourse. Maybe you should call Pixar.

01-30-2004, 05:51 AM	#8
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	I've commented on this topic previously, but then it has always been something minor in the background like on a monitor shown a second or two on a TV show (ok, more on that reality TV crap), but this time I think it's more like props or set design (my English fails me somewhat here). Anybody want to guess what Disney/Pixar would've done if they had played Finding Nemo in the background instead? /Tiny Rowe Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

01-30-2004, 06:40 AM	#9
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Well I hate that reality TV "crap" as Tiny calls it, so I missed that one. But this one does seem a little over the top, not to have an credit given at all. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

01-30-2004, 09:57 AM	#10
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	The copyright notice on the Aquarium box should have clearly said "Public exhibition is prohibited without written permission from the publisher." Then if someone wants to license the rights to exhibit it, they can. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

01-30-2004, 10:00 AM	#11
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Add that to future releases. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

01-30-2004, 10:55 AM	#12
klyntun Guest Posts: n/a	There is that FBI warning at the beginning of DVDs. It seems like this should fall under the same rules. You can't show a DVD and charge people to see it. Disney I'm sure charged an admission for that event, and people were definitely seeing the MA in all its glory. Isn't anyone here on the forum a lawyer?

01-30-2004, 11:12 AM	#13
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	Gee, I hope not. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-30-2004, 11:15 AM	#14
klyntun Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to insult anyone.

01-30-2004, 12:09 PM	#15
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Are we talking about a still image, - or did they use the DVD? The copyright notice (FBI warning) that Clint referred to IS on the Aquarium DVD, - I've just checked it! - but it only stays on screen for a moment! If they used the DVD there must surely be something that could be done!

01-30-2004, 12:35 PM	#16
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	I doubt they used a 640x480 DVD on a projection that tall. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

01-30-2004, 01:05 PM	#17
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	I don't really know. I'm assuming they had a computer hooked up to a hi-res projection system. No one at Prolific knew about this either. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

01-30-2004, 01:30 PM	#18
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	They are using one of Ken's fish, so it can't be the DVD. Plus I doubt they'd zoom 640x480 up to that size. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman