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Old 02-05-2009, 06:20 PM   #1
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no clock in the tank

sorry but i didn't know where to post this the crystal is there but not the clock i tryed " C and L " no clock. is there another download i have to get befor the clock shows up in the tank Thank you for your help

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Old 02-05-2009, 07:07 PM   #2
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The clock is currently only in the beta..... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...4&postcount=37 - It will be in the Installer version, "soon"

Please read the other threads in this Marine Aquarium 3 Beta Test Forum, then you will be up-to-date with what has happened, what is likely to happen, - and when it hopefully will happen!
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Old 02-07-2009, 07:59 AM   #3
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No Clock in beta 9 tank

Hi, I have been downloading the betas for some time now. This is a fantastic piece of software. This morning I bought the upgrade. I love it.
I also downloaded beta 9. There is no clock in my tank. I'm getting roughly 300 fps. My machine is a quad core on a x38 motherboard with 4gb DDR3 ram and a ATI 3870 graphics card. All of the latest drivers are loaded.
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Old 02-07-2009, 09:01 PM   #4
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Did you press C?
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:05 PM   #5
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With some trepidation, since this is my first attempt at Marine Aquarium 3 entomology, may I report that I, too, have no clock? Nothing happens when I press C, either. And, for that matter, pressing L has done nothing for the last three (I believe) betas. Windows XP sp3, "altlogo.png" file present in System 32 and in Serene Screen program folder, registration key for MA3 purchased and used, current (as of today) beta 9a.
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:52 PM   #6
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By default, the user's settings are now most likely to be kept in... C:\Documents and Settings\My Name\Application Data\Marine Aquarium 3
That's where my AltLogo.png and MA3Playlist.lst are. - Note that only the Beta9a will currently show the different clocks and calendar.

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Old 02-09-2009, 04:55 PM   #7
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A few things to check:

Clock - Are you positive you are using Beta9a? The statistics text (which should default to ON) should list the version as Beta9a.

Logo - The logo needs to be in the program's "Application Data" directory. The location of this varies, but on my computer it's C:/Documents and Settings/HP_Administrator/Application Data/Marine Aquarium 3 . This will be a lot easier when I get an interface in place.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:00 PM   #8
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Don't forget, you also have to change the program settings to "Display Crystal". (If the crystal is not visible, pressing "C" will not have any effect.)

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Old 02-09-2009, 05:14 PM   #9
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One thing I found out is there are two listings for MA3 in my screensaver list - one for the "Installed" version, and a second that says "beta". To get the clock I have to select "beta".
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:24 PM   #10
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Correct. - The clock/calendar is currently only in the beta, not the installer version.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:26 PM   #11
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The latest Clock/Calendar experiments work great, need to update the about/keyboard shortcuts
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:53 PM   #12
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I haven't decided if the final key shortcuts will be the current ones. Still open to suggestions.
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:19 AM   #13
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How about "C", for Clock/Calendar? .... And "L" for Logo changes?

..... (Note the clever and cunning use of the first letter of the associated feature's name!)
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:49 AM   #14
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What about the crystal?
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:23 AM   #15
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Originally posted by Jav400:
What about the crystal?  
Good point! How about (T)ime, (D)ate, (C)rystal, (L)ogo and (R)otate? The C key is pretty self-evident in that it would simply toggle the entire crystal on and off. The T,D and L keys could perform a dual function. For instance, hit the T key and it turns on the clock and leaves it on the crystal all of the time. Hitting it multiple times would step through the clock styles so that you could select the particular clock style you wish to use. Similarly, the D key could do the same for the calendar and the L key for the logo(s). The R key could then be used to toggle on/off a "rotation" mode where the selected Time, Date and Logo are cycled through (ala v2.6).

A set up like that would let the user display just a clock or calendar or logo on the crystal or let them rotate through all three. It would also let them select the particular style of clock and calendar they wish to view as well as selecting the particular logo.

The only drawback I can see is if you wish to add in an option for displaying multiple logos.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:30 AM   #16
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Originally posted by Jav400:
What about the crystal?  
I never felt the Crystal needed to be toggled in real time.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:36 AM   #17
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That decision I leave to Jim, I'm just bringing to light the conflict with using the "C" key as it could as well be considered for use with the crystal if warranted.
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I can only pray that at least Jim might see the irony of my last post, and that I was merely stating the b****y obvious!
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:58 AM   #19
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Question

Originally posted by Rick Simon:
Good point! How about (T)ime, (D)ate, (C)rystal, (L)ogo and (R)otate? The C key is pretty self-evident in that it would simply toggle the entire crystal on and off. The T,D and L keys could perform a dual function. For instance, hit the T key and it turns on the clock and leaves it on the crystal all of the time. Hitting it multiple times would step through the clock styles so that you could select the particular clock style you wish to use. Similarly, the D key could do the same for the calendar and the L key for the logo(s). The R key could then be used to toggle on/off a "rotation" mode where the selected Time, Date and Logo are cycled through (ala v2.6).

A set up like that would let the user display just a clock or calendar or logo on the crystal or let them rotate through all three. It would also let them select the particular style of clock and calendar they wish to view as well as selecting the particular logo.

The only drawback I can see is if you wish to add in an option for displaying multiple logos.  
That seems perfect. I can understand that it would take a lot of time and effort to get implemented but it would give the user a lot of flexibility with the crystal and it's applications.

For multi logo use. Why not just do the same as the "T" key. When you press it multiple times, it just switches from logo to logo to logo just ask the time switches style from style to style to style!
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:17 AM   #20
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Yes, Cliff - I get it

Regarding toggling the crystal with a key, no. The crystal defaults to ON, and displays the SereneScreen Logo. That way, when people see it in stores they know what they are looking at. Switching away from the logo needs to be at least a little effort - bringing up the Settings screen, and clicking a checkbox. Our biggest problem has always been lack of name recognition. Millions of potential customers have no idea that it's a product they can buy and put on their own computer.
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