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Old 08-25-2002, 05:49 PM   #1
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Jerky movement with Win XP Geforce 4 Ti4200

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I'm running on an Athlon XP2200+, Geforce 4 Ti4200, WinXP, 512mb DDR, Asus A7V333 Via KT333 chipset. 19" monitor set at desktop resolution of 1024x768 32bit 70hz refresh rate.

I'm getting jerky movement at this and all other resolutions with V1.1 aquarium. I've tried changing all of the obvious settings with no difference. Has anyone else replicated this with a similar setup ?. Any advice on achieving smooth graphics ?
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Old 08-25-2002, 06:56 PM   #2
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That's a top of the line system.

Definitely a driver issue or some background program is stealing CPU cycles.

Have you got the latest drivers for that GeForce from http://www.nVidia.com/ ?
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Old 08-25-2002, 06:57 PM   #3
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Usually, problems are attributed to drivers. You might check which ones you are using and try several other versions. You might also check and see if you have any background programs running that might be interfering on a regular basis and causing the jerkiness.
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Old 08-26-2002, 12:23 AM   #4
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I have the same chipset with just an athlon 1.2 and GF2MX on XP. It's smooth as butter.

I could not say the same thing for the KT266a board I just dumped though. It jerked all over the place. It was a problem in the design of many KT266 motherboards relating specifically to NVIDIA card. It had to be replaced with a later revision board.

Anyway, it would run smooth for a half hour or more, then it would start to skip something awful. I tried EVERYTHING for months. Replacing the motherboard eliminated it instantly.
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Old 08-26-2002, 01:29 AM   #5
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Urchin, as of yesterday I'm thinking about buying myself an identical system – save that I'm going for an 2000+ instead of your 2200. Are you satisfied with it (non-aquarium wise)?
My bet is that you're thinking 'bout a new monitor since 1024x768@70Hz really isn't up to par with the rest of that setup...

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Old 08-26-2002, 04:11 AM   #6
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Hi

Thanks for the advice. I will try some more drivers from the nvida & other driver sites to see if that clears up the problem. I have all background programs shut down via msconfig/startup, but thats not clearing the problem. I also noticed that the S key for fps readout is not doing anything - is this a known issue ?

Tiny Turtle - yes, apart from the the serenescreen problem I am very happy with the machine. I had a PIII 500mhz before and the performance increase has been phenomenal. Graphics run very fast with good fps. I run a lot of WWII flight sims which are CPU and graphics hungry and all of these now run very smooth. The Samsung dynaflat 957DF monitor is fine and does what I need it to. I'm not one of those people that have to have their monitor at max resolution on optimal refresh rate all the time - I find the lettering and icons at high res a pain to read.
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Old 08-26-2002, 08:33 AM   #7
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Max resolution and optimal refresh rate are two quite different issues. Typically, the higher the resolution – the lower the sweep frequency. I haven't been able to pick out what the maximum sweep frequency is for your monitor at your particular resolution, but since that model can handle 1280x1024@85 Hz, I'd say it can manage 1024x768@~100Hz (check your user manual for exact figures). The higher the frequency, the more stable the image so there's absolutely no reason whatsoever to run it at a lower frequency than it can handle.

On a side note, I can add that I've just ordered the pieces for that system and now I find myself walking back and forth by the door waiting (for a week or two) for it to arrive...

As for as the defunct "S" key: That's news to me. – Anybody else hear of it?

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Tiny T - Thanks for the additional info. on res/refresh rates. According to the monitor settings options under advanced settings my max res. is 85hz. There are 100 and 120 mhz options if I clear the check box against revealing unsafe settings for the monitor, but I am wary of using higher settings if it says these are unsafe.

Good luck with the new comp when it arrives, i'm sure you will be pleased with it.
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Sounds wise. I'd stick with 85 Hz – That's significantly more stable than 70 Hz anyways.

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Old 08-27-2002, 05:47 PM   #10
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Tried the new 30.82 drivers and no change. Went back to the 29.42 drivers as they are widely held to be the most reliable and best performers at the moment. Anybody else got ideas on this jerkiness in the movement ?
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Old 08-27-2002, 07:39 PM   #11
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When you bring up the Task Manager ( ctrl-alt-del ), are there any other processes which are using much CPU time?

Is this computer networked or on-line when the fish are jerky?
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Old 08-30-2002, 09:38 AM   #12
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Hi Jim

The answers no to each of those. Antialiasing is also off and its an audigy sound card not the dreaded soundblaster. I'm usually OK at sorting stuff out myself, but this one is really throwing me at the moment. Also tried the new 40.xx beta drivers - no change, but good drivers anyway ! The Dxdiag report follows:

System Information
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Time of this report: 8/30/2002, 16:07:28
Machine name: MARKANDGILL
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) (2600.xpclnt_qfe.010827-1803)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: eveshamvale
System Model: eveshamvale
BIOS: ASUS - 42302e31
Processor: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1800MHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 144MB used, 1106MB available
Primary File System: n/a
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0810)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.01.2600.0000 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Components
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dmstyle.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 110080 bytes
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce4 Ti 4200
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0253&SUBSYS_2896107D&REV_A3
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.13.10.2942 (English)
DDI Version: 8 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/3/2002 10:06:00, 3539018 bytes
Driver Signed: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD:
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 5/3/2002 10:06:00, 931882 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4113-11CF-B378-9C0801C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0253
SubSys ID: 0x2896107D
Revision ID: 0x00A3
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result:
D3D7 Test Result:
D3D8 Test Result:

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Sound Devices
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Description: SB Audigy Audio [FF60]
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_00531102&REV_03
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: e10kx2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.01.0136 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Signed: Yes
Date and Size: 11/5/2001 13:02:30, 1758336 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result:

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
Version: 1.00.16.0002
Ports:
SB Audigy DirectMusic Synthesizer [FF60], Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
SB Audigy Audio [FF60], Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy Synth A [FF60] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy Sw Synth [FF60] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy Synth B [FF60] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy MIDI Port [FF60] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy MIDI Port [FF60] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Music Test Result:

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo 8 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
MSScreen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
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SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,l3codecx.ax,1.05.00.0050
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MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
File Source (Netshow URL),0x00400000,0,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmvds32.ax,8.00.00.4477
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmv8ds32.ax,8.00.00.4000
Windows Media Multiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
ASX file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
ASX v.2 file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
NSC file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Windows Media source filter,0x00600000,0,2,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
WST Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,wstdecod.dll,5.01.2600.0000
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,6.04.2600.0000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,5.01.2600.0000
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,mpg4ds32.ax,8.00.00.44 77
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,2,qdvd.dll,6.04.2600.0000
CyberLink Audio Decoder,0x00601000,1,1,claud.ax,3.05.00.1004
CyberLink Video/SP Decoder,0x00600000,2,2,clvsd.ax,3.05.00.1303
Overlay Mixer2,0x00400000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.04.2600.0000
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
.RAM file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
G.711 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,g711codc.ax,5.01.2600.0000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.04.2600 .0000
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Indeo® audio software,0x00500000,1,1,iac25_32.ax,2.00.05.0053
Windows Media Update Filter,0x00400000,1,0,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
ASF DIB Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
ASF ACM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
ASF ICM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
ASF URL Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
ASF JPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
ASF DJPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
ASF embedded stuff Handler,0x00600000,1,1,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
WIA Stream Snapshot Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wiasf.ax,1.00.00.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.04.2600.0 000
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.04.2600.0000
CyberLink DxVA Filter 2,0x00200000,0,3,Cldxva.ax,
IVF source filter,0x00600000,0,1,ivfsrc.ax,5.10.02.0051
WMP CD Filter,0x00600000,0,1,wmpcd.dll,8.00.00.4477
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.04.2600.0000
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0 000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
QuickTime Movie Parser,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Lyric Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
XML Playlist,0x00400000,1,0,dxmasf.dll,6.04.09.1121
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Windows Media Pad VU Data Grabber,0x00600000,1,0,wmmfilt.dll,1.01.2427.0000
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
QT Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0 000
ShotBoundaryDet,0x00200000,1,1,wmmfilt.dll,1.01.24 27.0000
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.16.0003
Indeo® video 4.4 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.16.0003

WDM Streaming Data Transforms:
Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller,0x00200000,2,2,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.00 00
Microsoft Kernel DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.00 00
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.00 00

Video Compressors:
WMVideo Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00100000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.15.0055
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.000 0
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Intel Indeo® Video 4.5,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Indeo® video 5.10,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000

Audio Compressors:
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IAC2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
ACELP.net,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM),0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600 .0000
Windows Media Audio V1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Windows Media Audio V2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Microsoft G.723.1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000

Audio Capture Sources:
SB Audigy Audio [FF60],0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Modem #0 Line Record,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.04.2600.0000

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
SB Audigy MIDI Port [FF60],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
SB Audigy Sw Synth [FF60],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
SB Audigy Synth A [FF60],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
SB Audigy Synth B [FF60],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
SB Audigy MIDI Port [FF60],0x00200000,2,2,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy Audio [FF60],0x00200000,3,2,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
SB Audigy DirectMusic Synthesizer [FF60],0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy Sw Synth [FF60],0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy Synth A [FF60],0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy Synth B [FF60],0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy MIDI Port [FF60],0x00200000,2,2,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy Audio [FF60],0x00200000,3,2,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000

WDM Streaming Mixer Devices:
Microsoft Kernel Wave Audio Mixer,0x00200000,2,2,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000

Audio Renderers:
SB Audigy Audio [FF60],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
DirectSound: Modem #0 Line Playback (emulated),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.000 0
DirectSound: SB Audigy Audio [FF60],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000
Modem #0 Line Playback,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.04.2600.0000

WDM Streaming System Devices:
SB Audigy DirectMusic Synthesizer [FF60],0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy Sw Synth [FF60],0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy Synth A [FF60],0x00200000,11,2,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy Synth B [FF60],0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy MIDI Port [FF60],0x00200000,2,2,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000
SB Audigy Audio [FF60],0x00200000,13,2,ksproxy.ax,5.01.2600.0000

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Input Devices
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Device Name: Saitek Cyborg 3D Stick
Provider: Saitek
Hardware ID: USB\Vid_06a3&Pid_0006&Rev_0001
Status: 0
Port Name: USB Root Hub
Port Provider: (Standard USB Host Controller)
Port ID: USB\ROOT_HUB&VID1106&PID3038&REV0023
Port Status: 0

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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Input Drivers
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DirectPlay Service Providers
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Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (5.01.2600.0000)
DirectPlay Test Result:

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
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Old 09-05-2002, 09:32 AM   #13
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the latest Via 4in1 drivers may (or may not) help in your case. URL to follow.

http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2

Hope this helps.
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512 megs PC2100 DDR RAM
Gigabyte GA-7DXR
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GeForce 4 ti4600 with nvidia 40.41 BETA reference drivers
Getting up to 80 fps in the saver at 1152 X 864 @ 75 hertz screen resolution.
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Old 09-08-2002, 10:53 AM   #14
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mfc42.dll: 6.00.8665.0000 English Beta Retail 8/18/2001 13:00:00 995383 bytes
Aha! you're using an older version of the mfc42.dll. That surely must be it...

– A tad bit over the top with that post, Urch?

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Old 09-10-2002, 04:47 PM   #15
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I have exactly the same problem.

System:

AthlonXP 1800+
512MB DDR ram
MSI KT3 Ultra motherboard
Asus Geforce4 Ti4400
Win XP Pro

I get jerky aquarium at all resolutions; not severe, but noticable. Sometimes, for no apparent reason it's smooth, but not very often and I haven't a clue as to why it becomes smooth. When first switching my computer on it's always jerky, but after using my computer for a while, as I say, it can run smoothly, but not always. It's not like I try to shut programs down in task manager to make it smooth - it just happens.
I've tried various detonator drivers - using 30.82 at the moment - but none have solved the problem. Also using Via 4in1 v4.40.

Just checked Processes in Task Manager and everything is 00 apart from Sytem Idle Process which is 99. I assume this is right?
Also, it doesn't matter if I'm on-line or not, the aquarium is still jerky.

Glad to find someone else having this problem (if you know what I mean!)

Used to run it on an old Duron system, Windows 98SE with Geforce2 mx and it was as smooth as silk.

Feel like it could be a difficult bug to find if there aren't that many people who are getting it...
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:00 PM   #16
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You aren't running NetMeeting are you?
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:09 PM   #17
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This might sound like a stupid question but how do I tell?
I'm fairly sure I'm not running it though.
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:20 PM   #18
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Another thing I've noticed is if I press the "s" key to get the frame rate info, it flicks between 73 and 78 fps. I'm running 1280x1024@75Hz. I'm fairly sure that when it runs smoothly the fps stays almost constant.

Also, if I limit frame rate to 60 I get fps of between 39 and 41 and it's jerky as hell.

Any ideas?
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Old 09-11-2002, 02:28 AM   #19
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Originally posted by Cod
Another thing I've noticed is if I press the "s" key to get the frame rate info, it flicks between 73 and 78 fps. I'm running 1280x1024@75Hz. I'm fairly sure that when it runs smoothly the fps stays almost constant.

Also, if I limit frame rate to 60 I get fps of between 39 and 41 and it's jerky as hell.

Any ideas?
Something isn't right.

You need to find out what is running in the background.

Of course, you also need to make sure your 4 in 1 drivers are installed and up to date.




This may or may not be way off base, but for all the people running fast Athlons on Fast KT266 or KT3 boards, how much power supply do you have? What are the reported CPU and Motherboard temperatures? Do your GF4's have fanes on them or just metal heatsinks?

If you upgraded, did you carry over the case and fans?

Or even better, if these are new systems, have you verified that they have enough cooling? Many manufacturers "overlook" decent cooling, especially with fast Athlon systems.
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Old 09-11-2002, 02:31 AM   #20
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Another thought, anyone running the indexing service?

Or a program that is on the task bar, does not hide, and redraws itself at an interval?
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