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Old 03-16-2004, 03:12 PM   #101
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But what about the action of swimming toward the camera and suddenly opening its mouth and snapping it close. You know show some teeth
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Old 03-16-2004, 06:44 PM   #102
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Heck Marian, I'd be happy if ALL our sharks had teeth to start with.
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Old 03-16-2004, 06:49 PM   #103
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Some of our sharks have teeth, but remember, each tooth is 1 poly. When one considers that Sachs' fish are in the 300 poly range, we are talking a fourth just for teeth.
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Old 03-16-2004, 10:03 PM   #104
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Hey Reichart,

So is that your way of saying that you wont be adding teeth to the rest of the sharks then? Don't mean to pry, but teeth are rather important to sharks and the overall fear effect they convey. Without them they're like a toothless tiger. Nice to look at, but not too much in the way of fear. Ok, so a tiger does have it's claws, but you get my point.
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Old 03-16-2004, 10:11 PM   #105
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No, it means simply that we promised nothing.

We plan to improve the product though. We will do things in the order we can, and when we can.
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Old 03-16-2004, 10:51 PM   #106
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No worries Reichart, I wasn't reading into anything and never said you had guys actually "promised" anything, so shields down Scotty, you're not under attack.

I was just saying that the over all effect of a screensaver titled "Sharks: Terrors of the Deep" with sharks that have no teeth might seem a little ... well ... neutered. I fully understand the ramifications of the poly count, but what I'm not privy to is how far you guys are willing to go, so that's why I was asking. You never know until you ask, right?
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:14 AM   #107
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I too see the problem, but would as it is right now prefer a closed mouth over the Colgate smile of the GW...

/Tiny Nag About Glowing Teeth Again
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Old 03-17-2004, 03:32 PM   #108
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Interesting discussion RE Teeth. We will probably be adding teeth when and where they are needed, and balanced for effect vs performace.

For example, the GW is famous for it's large visable teeth in mulitple rows. These teeth are constantly being replaced. In some cases they are actually stick out beyond the jaw line before they break off. Our Great White has teeth and has a wonderful dental plan as Tiny points out. However, the bottom dwelling angel shark, No teeth is my vote... When we put behaviour and territory elements into the game, you will just never see them

Also, not all shark species have clearly visible teeth. For example:
http://www.vibrantsea.net/hammerhead17_cocos1.html

and
http://www.chirpingbird.com/netpets/.../fishfac1.html

I have not yet gone down the list of all of our sharks, but I would hazzard a guess that the majority of them will not benefit from, or be biologically accurate with visible teeth.
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Old 03-17-2004, 03:48 PM   #109
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Old 03-17-2004, 11:12 PM   #110
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I totally agree Schnaaps, bottom dwelling sharks wouldn't normally have visible teeth and the same should apply to those in the screensaver. I should have clarified that myself when I was suggesting the sharks should all have teeth, it probably would have helped.

BTW, thanks for the links, that one image makes for a good avatar.
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Old 03-18-2004, 01:07 AM   #111
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DL, you are correct, that is a great avatar.

As you may have figured, I tend to always stress realism and accuracy whenever possible.
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Old 03-18-2004, 03:51 AM   #112
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:55 PM   #113
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First I would like to thank the developers for creating this product. I have been waiting for this product, and it surpasses any other attempts that I have seen! I have registered so that I can easily keep up with the sharks!

I agree with Tiny that claspers would be a nice addition to some of the sharks. Showing both male and female sharks would be very cool, and give some people a better idea that there are distinct differences between male and female sharks.

One other thing I have not seen mentioned in the posts would be some shark eggs. Since sharks can reproduce in 3 possible manners, it would be really cool to see some of the egg cases depicted in the backgrounds with bottoms. Again I think it would give people a little better appreciation of the true beauty of the sharks in the world.

Again thank you for the product!! I look forward to every update that might be issued!
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:57 PM   #114
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Welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy your time here. The egg idea is one that I haven't seen before. Good job on your first post.
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Old 03-24-2004, 04:27 AM   #115
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Old 03-24-2004, 04:43 AM   #116
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Noted, YT. I'll see if I can find some time.
Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think.

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I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
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I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.
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Old 03-24-2004, 07:48 PM   #117
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Embarassed

sorry tiny...
just trying out...
is this ok?
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Old 03-25-2004, 02:21 AM   #118
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No worries, Sunny. I tried that one too, but thought it just looked like he vas stuck in one place. I'm thinking adding a few (small) bubbles passing by in the reverse direction of the shark might create a better illusion of movement.

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"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.'
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Old 03-25-2004, 07:10 AM   #119
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I had something like this in my mind (made with SmartMorph, thanks Cliff):
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Old 03-25-2004, 07:16 AM   #120
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Hey, not too shabby... The small blur kind of gives it a watery effect...
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