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Old 06-04-2009, 01:10 PM   #381
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Installed Beta 10d on the Following Windows 7 RC1 Build 7100 machines
Toshiba Satellite L35-S2151 Model# PSL33U-026018 laptop
Windows 7 RC1 32 bit version displayed
55 fps (1280x800x32) #0 Beta 10d
HAL (pure hw vp): ATI Radon Xpress Series
Timing Clamp 0.10, Sleep(10) Windows Size 1280x800

Fry’s ECS G31T-M motherboard & Intel Core 2 Duo E8500
Windows 7 RC1 64 bit version displayed
86 fps (1024x768x32) #0 Beta 10d
HAL (sw vp): Intel® G33/G31 Express Chipset Family (Microsoft Corporation – WDDM 1.0)
Timing Clamp 0.10, Sleep(10) Windows Size 1024x768

When I added a e-Gforce 7200 256MB DDR2 P/N:256-P2-N429-LR card it displayed
111 fps (1024x768x32) #0 Beta 10d
HAL ((pure hw vp): NVIDEA GeForce 7300 SE/7200 (Prelease - WDDM 1.0)
Timing Clamp 0.10, Sleep(10) Windows Size 1024x768

Both 32 and 64 bit versions work fine for Windows 7
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:19 PM   #382
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Hey Jim, if the installer gets updated will you be making an announcement? Hard to tell from the first post link which version is currently up
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:44 PM   #383
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This thread contains the links to download the latest Installer and Standalone versions of MA3:
Marine Aquarium 3 Beta NEWS & DOWNLOAD

You can SUBSCRIBE to that thread to receive an e-mail any time there is an updated version. There is currently no way to get an e-mail ONLY when the Installer version is updated.

It wouldn't do to subscribe to THIS thread, as it is a discussion thread and gets lots of hits during the month.
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:50 PM   #384
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Yeah, I'll make an announcement.
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:52 PM   #385
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If there is a genuine desire, then I will split off and create a whole separate Installer News thread which you can post new releases to. It would be structured in a similar way to the Beta thread that you've been posting to.

I would scale back some of the rhetoric and if folks want more info, they can go over to the Beta thread and read more detail..
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Old 06-05-2009, 05:23 AM   #386
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Originally posted by feldon33:
I'm not the only one here with graphic design skills, you know.  
Sounds like a challenge, Mark.


Originally posted by feldon33:
If there is a genuine desire, then I will split off and create a whole separate Installer News thread which you can post new releases to.  
Sounds like a great idea, Morgan.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:09 AM   #387
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See the installer still only has beta a in it.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:30 AM   #388
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I'm hoping Prolific will be able to get Beta10d up as the official version today.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:52 AM   #389
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Big Grin music question

Jim first I want to say I love your new aqarium and I love more each day. Question and I'm not sure this is the right thread. I wanted to add some of my music but it appears the tracks I got from itunes store are mp4 format. Will this format be supported in future updates?
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:05 PM   #390
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I'm not sure yet. In the meantime, there are a lot of programs available to convert them to MP3, WMA, or AIFF formats.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:59 PM   #391
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OOPS.. it seems that the new MarineAquarium3-2.exe when installed removes the play list of the beta version...Yet does not remove or change the logo setup / files
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:24 PM   #392
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That's probably a function of the installer. It's always safest to rename playlists if you want to keep them when using the installer.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:11 PM   #393
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
That's probably a function of the installer. It's always safest to rename playlists if you want to keep them when using the installer.  
I technically agree that it's safest. But:

It would be called a BUG in the installer, if it changes any pre-existing user settings.

And, beating a dead horse - there's no current user documentation telling users where the playlists are.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:22 PM   #394
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Beta.
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:41 AM   #395
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
Beta.  
I guess I didn't realize that the installer code (itself) was considered to be Beta.

Presumably, a bug report in this thread (such as the one Ralph reported) gets it fixed.
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:45 AM   #396
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The whole purpose of the installer was to create a blank playlist in the correct folder on all possible systems from 2000 to XP to Vista to Windows 7. There was no easy way to communicate to the user that due to Microsoft finagling, the folder the MA3 looks for logos and playlists is quite different on different systems.

Everything else, the user can figure out themselves.

Going forward, the installer should check for the existence of the file and not overwrite it though.
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:52 AM   #397
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This is the first time that Prolific has used this particualr installer software, and they are not even certain if it's the final one. Nova (our new hardcopy publisher) has their own, and we might end up going with a modified version of theirs. None of this is in my hands.
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:02 AM   #398
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Installer Date ? ScreneScreen 3,606,351 Bytes installs MarineAquarium3.scr 6,587,176 Bytes T603.3.0.193

Installer May 11 fish-byte 3,562,114 Bytes installs MarineAquarium3.scr 6,696,960 Bytes T511.3.0.186

Download June 3 fish-byte gives Ma3Beta.scr 6,587,176 Bytes T603.3.0.37

All fine in Windows 7 RC1 x64

Does ScreneScreen install 10d? (Bytes of scr match)
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:12 AM   #399
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
This is the first time that Prolific has used this particualr installer software, and they are not even certain if it's the final one. Nova (our new hardcopy publisher) has their own, and we might end up going with a modified version of theirs. None of this is in my hands.  
I have no problem with that, now that I know.

The question is how (if) we should report problems with the installer. Here? SereneScreen "tech support"? Somewhere else?
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:55 AM   #400
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GWG - The latest installer version at SereneScreen.com is 10d (which is the very latest version as of today, June 6). Simply run the Aquarium and press the "S" key to show the Statistics, which includes the version number. The number of bytes and the "T..." number will vary depending on whether that copy of the program was compiled on my system or Edgar's.

Dale - I guess this is as good a place as any to report installer problems.
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