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Old 04-28-2009, 09:06 AM   #1
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360 degree view angle?

Hi,

I love the screnescreen saver, looks so sexy and well fluid but there is something i think that could enhance it even further, although i am not sure how possible and how likely this is?

sometimes i feel it would be wonderful to slightly rotate my viewing angle so i am not looking square on at the tank and being able to take a look at the fish and surroundings from a different perspective, also probably getting a sense of feeling of greater depth to the tank and surroundings. i feel it would be great to see fish pass over a rock or or slip under a rock (or even the pass by via man-made products like shipwrecks with holes for the fish) from one the left of the screen over to the right as opposed to fish behind the rocks and them coming to the forefront of the rocks.

Hope this makes sense? I'm not sure if its been mentioned before but I think having the ability to view the tank on say a turning circle with completely 3d objects... now that would be some feat!

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Old 04-28-2009, 09:22 AM   #2
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The 3D coral is built in such a way that it can only be viewed from one angle. View it from any other angle and the illusion completely shatters. The pieces of coral literally fly apart.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:01 AM   #3
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The background is like a Hollywood set - the illusion only exists from a very narrow camera angle.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:11 AM   #4
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thanks guys for the speedy replies.

its no big deal i was just looking at possible ways of making an already great product possibly better.

i accept what you are saying especially from when i read on here quite a while back about jim taking all the photos etc which must have been extremely time consuming. i'm guessing the only way to get past the hurdle of being quite flat would be to have a 3d rendered model which would be insane to create i bet especially for all the objects that would need to be created from scratch.

btw, i'm extremely excited about your other projects such as the butterflies etc.

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Old 04-28-2009, 11:22 AM   #5
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Butterflies ? ..... Take a look back in here, in about 10 or 20 years..... ..... (Or more!)

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Old 04-28-2009, 02:57 PM   #6
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All the objects in MA3 are 3D rendered models. Press the W key to see the polygons.
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Old 04-29-2009, 02:58 AM   #7
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jesus i've just done that jim, looks very complex lol!

so what would it require to get those 3d objects viewable in some form of different angles or on a swivel?

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Old 04-29-2009, 03:34 AM   #8
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I think Jim and Morgan have just answered that, haven't they?
Originally posted by feldon33:
The 3D coral is built in such a way that it can only be viewed from one angle. View it from any other angle and the illusion completely shatters. The pieces of coral literally fly apart.  
Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
The background is like a Hollywood set - the illusion only exists from a very narrow camera angle.  
.... "... what would it require to get those 3d objects viewable in some form of different angles or on a swivel?" ......... A B****Y MIRACLE!


ps.... I think Jim only performs miracles once every Preston Guild...
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:45 AM   #9
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BN,

Those models are only "built on one side", so to speak. And the viewing only works looking at them from one angle. Imagine everything in the tank needing to be placed in exactly the right spot so that each piece that is built can be seen properly, without seeing any part "that isn't there".

Now if you move your head then you will see holes in the illusion. It took years to build what you see here and get everything working properly. Changing viewing angles or wandering around the tank just cannot be done without starting over from scratch and fully making each piece all over again and taking allot more time....................
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:46 AM   #10
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If I went too deeply into the details, I might miss out on the fun of watching so many others try and fail to compete with the Aquarium. Suffice it to say that it has to do with the edges of irregular objects. If an object has 50 edges from one angle (MA2.6), and 100 edges from two angles (MA3), how many edges does it have from an infinite number of angles?
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:17 AM   #11
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
If an object has 50 edges from one angle (MA2.6), and 100 edges from two angles (MA3), how many edges does it have from an infinite number of angles?  
My head hurts!
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:28 AM   #12
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
how many edges does it have from an infinite number of angles?  
The secret answer is hidden on the next line.

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Hint - turn you head 90 degrees to reveal the answer.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:53 AM   #13
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:26 AM   #14
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:48 PM   #16
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What was that again, Pat? - I couldn't quite see... ... Haven't you got a bigger one?
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Old 04-30-2009, 01:49 PM   #17
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See a bigger what? ??
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Subtle, isn't he?
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:26 PM   #19
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:35 PM   #20
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Fish are 3D but not environment?

I'm new to marine aquarium 3 so please excuse my newbie ignorance. The fish appear to have the ability to rotate 360 deg. in the z axis and all x/y/z variations so then it seems that if the aquarium tank were shaped like a snowglobe it could rotate the same way as the fish? They (the fish) don't require infinite number of edges? Tom
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