Status of Next version - Page 2

Tiny Turtle · 10-20-2001, 12:11 PM

It sure is...

/Tiny

FishyBusiness · 10-20-2001, 02:02 PM

That is true! With most other programs, I worry about trying the first full version.

I hope that people read this forum, run the aquarium, and do realize that Jim Sachs is doing it differently than the rest. Then maybe they can see that in this particular case, version 1.0 is just a number.

Tiny Turtle · 10-20-2001, 03:10 PM

Another possible problem could be that since "regular" v1.01´s or v3.04´s only offers bugfixes and no actual new features, people might not put too much effort into downloading the latest version. I mean, the usual SS update has spoiled us with a couple of new fish along with some bug fixes and for someone not beeing aware of the "Sachs Way" of version numbering they might not update unless they are experiencing an actual bug (something that does not occur that often with the SS).

The only "bug" i know of that doesn't get any attention is that when the SS is running (windowed or full-screen) hotkeys for shortcuts (Windows standard or user defined) don't work. Morgan dismissed this earlier because "using Windows Explorer wasn't the best way to work under Ms Windows". Back then (I can't find the topic, Morgan) I thought it was only [Win]+[E] that failed, but now I discovered that I can't use any hotkeys while the little guys swim in their window.

/Tiny

feldon34 · 10-21-2001, 04:34 PM

Adobe Photoshop 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, 5.5, and 6.0 make Windows look bug-free.

Adobe Photoshop 2.0.1, 2.5.1, 3.0.1, 4.0.1, 5.0.1, 5.5.1, and 6.0.1 are useable

celebensis · 11-01-2001, 10:22 PM

Any update information Availible ?

feldon34 · 11-01-2001, 10:34 PM

1.0 IS being tested, that's all I can say. Please don't ask to sign up for testing, we've got as many people as we can handle right now.

celebensis · 11-02-2001, 10:51 PM

oh sign me for tesing *grin*

Lostboy · 11-18-2001, 02:19 PM

Any new info on V1.0? Is it coming soon?

Jim Sachs · 11-18-2001, 05:06 PM

The boxed version of 1.0 is in the warehouse and ready to ship. The downloadable version is done, but the installer is too big. I've insisted that the whole program must fit on a floppy, so Prolific is working to get it from 5 mb down to 1.4 mb.

Derrek · 11-18-2001, 07:17 PM

does version 1.0 contain the 3d background? if so would it be possible to post some screenshots?

Jim Sachs · 11-18-2001, 08:06 PM

v1.0 is just v.99L with an installer. There are a couple of extremely minor bug fixes, but no visual difference.

There is still a huge amount of work to do on the 3D background, but it will be worth the wait. The original 2D background was just a flat picture and took me about 2 months to put together. The new background is 2.5 times as wide, and each tiny object must be modeled in 3D, then a texture created and applied.

feldon34 · 11-18-2001, 08:38 PM

https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/FAQ.HTM#Updates1

Fab · 11-19-2001, 11:55 AM

As there is still a huge amount of work to do on the 3D background, would it be possible to post some screenshots or a model of the background ?

Thus we could keep up with the background's progress.

Jim Sachs · 11-19-2001, 12:21 PM

It doesn't look like anything a non-programmer would recognize. Kind of like a patient in the middle of a heart transplant. Won't be presentable until it's all sewn up.

Taxman · 11-19-2001, 01:58 PM

Go on Jim be a buddy - are we talking months, a month, days - tomorrow would be nice?!!

Jim Sachs · 11-19-2001, 03:16 PM

Somewhere between a week and never. Apparently, some of you seem to think that I know what I'm doing. I assure you that nothing could be farther from the truth.

Here's an analogy: Suppose you had to cross the Rockies on foot with no map. Each day you have no idea what you will encounter, or how far you still have left to go. Maybe you'll find an easy path that you can follow for miles. Maybe you'll spend the day climbing a sheer rock face, and make no forward progress at all. Most of the paths lead to dead ends. And all the while, there's a helicopter overhead with a bullhorn shouting "C'mon, Jim, be a buddy! Tell us how many more days!".

feldon34 · 11-19-2001, 03:24 PM

I'd say 2 months, but don't quote me.

I too am bugging Jim to give us snapshots of the 3d background in progress. Nobody complains when George Lucas or Disney releases pencil drawings, sketches, and 3d wireframes of a coming project.

*twisting Jim's arm*

Jav400 · 11-19-2001, 08:13 PM

Jim,

Well if this is what you are capable of without knowing what you are doing, I would guess that you could code the space shuttle if you took maybe 2 classes. It is a shame that more people don't go exploring in the wilderness of programming, if things like this are the result.

10-20-2001, 12:11 PM	#21
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Re: Why people are waiting for One-Point-Oh It sure is... /Tiny Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

10-20-2001, 02:02 PM	#22
FishyBusiness Registered Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,206	Re: Why people are waiting for One-Point-Oh That is true! With most other programs, I worry about trying the first full version. I hope that people read this forum, run the aquarium, and do realize that Jim Sachs is doing it differently than the rest. Then maybe they can see that in this particular case, version 1.0 is just a number. Frank

10-20-2001, 03:10 PM	#23
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	One-Point-Oh problem #2 Another possible problem could be that since "regular" v1.01´s or v3.04´s only offers bugfixes and no actual new features, people might not put too much effort into downloading the latest version. I mean, the usual SS update has spoiled us with a couple of new fish along with some bug fixes and for someone not beeing aware of the "Sachs Way" of version numbering they might not update unless they are experiencing an actual bug (something that does not occur that often with the SS). The only "bug" i know of that doesn't get any attention is that when the SS is running (windowed or full-screen) hotkeys for shortcuts (Windows standard or user defined) don't work. Morgan dismissed this earlier because "using Windows Explorer wasn't the best way to work under Ms Windows". Back then (I can't find the topic, Morgan) I thought it was only [Win]+[E] that failed, but now I discovered that I can't use any hotkeys while the little guys swim in their window. /Tiny Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

10-21-2001, 04:34 PM	#24
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	Re: One-Point-Oh problem #2 Adobe Photoshop 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, 5.5, and 6.0 make Windows look bug-free. Adobe Photoshop 2.0.1, 2.5.1, 3.0.1, 4.0.1, 5.0.1, 5.5.1, and 6.0.1 are useable "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

11-01-2001, 10:22 PM	#25
celebensis Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 5	Any update information Availible ? Dave: Plants Keep The World Alive

11-01-2001, 10:34 PM	#26
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	1.0 Testing 1.0 IS being tested, that's all I can say. Please don't ask to sign up for testing, we've got as many people as we can handle right now. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

11-02-2001, 10:51 PM	#27
celebensis Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 5	oh sign me for tesing grin Dave: Plants Keep The World Alive

11-18-2001, 02:19 PM	#28
Lostboy SquirrelFish Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 206	Any new info on V1.0? Is it coming soon?

11-18-2001, 05:06 PM	#29
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	The boxed version of 1.0 is in the warehouse and ready to ship. The downloadable version is done, but the installer is too big. I've insisted that the whole program must fit on a floppy, so Prolific is working to get it from 5 mb down to 1.4 mb. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-18-2001, 07:17 PM	#30
Derrek Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 186	does version 1.0 contain the 3d background? if so would it be possible to post some screenshots?

11-18-2001, 08:06 PM	#31
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	v1.0 is just v.99L with an installer. There are a couple of extremely minor bug fixes, but no visual difference. There is still a huge amount of work to do on the 3D background, but it will be worth the wait. The original 2D background was just a flat picture and took me about 2 months to put together. The new background is 2.5 times as wide, and each tiny object must be modeled in 3D, then a texture created and applied. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium Last edited by Jim Sachs; 11-18-2001 at 08:13 PM.

11-18-2001, 08:38 PM	#32
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/FAQ.HTM#Updates1 "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

11-19-2001, 11:55 AM	#33
Fab Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: France Posts: 1	As there is still a huge amount of work to do on the 3D background, would it be possible to post some screenshots or a model of the background ? Thus we could keep up with the background's progress.

11-19-2001, 12:21 PM	#34
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	It doesn't look like anything a non-programmer would recognize. Kind of like a patient in the middle of a heart transplant. Won't be presentable until it's all sewn up. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-19-2001, 01:58 PM	#35
Taxman Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 10	Go on Jim be a buddy - are we talking months, a month, days - tomorrow would be nice?!!

11-19-2001, 03:16 PM	#36
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,774	Somewhere between a week and never. Apparently, some of you seem to think that I know what I'm doing. I assure you that nothing could be farther from the truth. Here's an analogy: Suppose you had to cross the Rockies on foot with no map. Each day you have no idea what you will encounter, or how far you still have left to go. Maybe you'll find an easy path that you can follow for miles. Maybe you'll spend the day climbing a sheer rock face, and make no forward progress at all. Most of the paths lead to dead ends. And all the while, there's a helicopter overhead with a bullhorn shouting "C'mon, Jim, be a buddy! Tell us how many more days!". Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-19-2001, 03:24 PM	#37
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	I'd say 2 months, but don't quote me. I too am bugging Jim to give us snapshots of the 3d background in progress. Nobody complains when George Lucas or Disney releases pencil drawings, sketches, and 3d wireframes of a coming project. twisting Jim's arm "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

11-19-2001, 08:13 PM	#38
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Jim, Well if this is what you are capable of without knowing what you are doing, I would guess that you could code the space shuttle if you took maybe 2 classes. It is a shame that more people don't go exploring in the wilderness of programming, if things like this are the result. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection