** CHAT with Jim Sachs - Mar 15th ** - Page 2

Jim Sachs · 03-05-2003, 12:53 AM

Hi, E-Z -- Welcome to the Forum.

Yes, the fish are 3D, and Morgan is right - I used LightWave to create the fish models. Then they are loaded into UView to apply the textures, and saved in OBJ format. Next, I run them through another program I wrote to convert them to .X text files. I then do a lot of manual editing of the text files, and finally convert them to compressed binary .x format.

Of course, the first dozen times the fish isn't going to look right, so all this has to be repeated over and over. Even with all this trouble, I consider making the fish the "fun part".

Yellow Tang · 03-05-2003, 04:13 AM

Tiny, the hens over here make the same sounds as yours, "bok bok" is absolutely right!

No ga ga hens here. :-)

patscarr · 03-05-2003, 04:26 AM

Between Morgan ranting, James the ever pitchman for AquaReal, and FearTecs technical questions, is was, all in all, a great chat.

Jav400 · 03-05-2003, 06:20 AM

That was about the way the chats usually go.

Tiny Turtle · 03-05-2003, 07:22 AM

YT,
I got the "German hens go gak, gak" part from a (U.S.) webpage – Swedish hens go "kaa-kaa" or "kluck kluck"

PatShark (pet shark?),
I like your summary – including the latst part.

/Tiny Shark

E-Z · 03-05-2003, 07:35 AM

pretty live looking fish for 3D.
thanks for the reply and nice work

IXNAY · 03-05-2003, 09:43 AM

Ahhh ok *laugh*
damn I'm late with replying

IXNAY · 03-14-2003, 07:33 AM

Well it seems that I'll have no time to join the chat, some friends will visit me and we're planing to check the nightlife of my city

Have fun at the chat, it shhould be really interesting this time. So Morgan please make a quick chatlog

Tiny Turtle · 03-15-2003, 06:44 AM

I'm bailing out too – There's a slim possibility I can make it but it's not likely.

/Tiny Dropout

feldon34 · 03-15-2003, 11:07 AM

Geez. We schedule a Euro-friendly time and you guys bail on us.

*sniff*

Tiny Turtle · 03-16-2003, 06:31 AM

Sorry. Big kudos for the timing – but this thing superceeded pretty much everything else...

/Calle

feldon34 · 03-16-2003, 11:46 AM

Was she cute?

Tiny Turtle · 03-17-2003, 04:09 AM

I realized I'd get one or two of those jokes after reading my post, but unfortuately this was all bad news

/Tiny Problem

Derrek · 03-18-2003, 08:35 AM

I'd like to take this time to apologize for my behavior in the last chat with Jim on March 15th. It has come to my attention that I was hogging the question time and not giving the other members a chance to ask questions. It has also come to my attention that some of my questions could have been answered by reading the transcripts of the previous chat with Jim that was back in Feb. So to Jim I'm deeply sorry for asking needless questions and to the others, I'm sorry for "hogging" the chat time with Jim.

Wizwad · 03-18-2003, 08:58 AM

Don't worry about it Derrek - they argued about DirectX a lot!

I'm just hoping my own behaviour was acceptable - I'd just got back from sampling a range of very tasty real ales!

Jim Sachs · 03-18-2003, 09:57 AM

Derrek -

No problem at all. Your questions were thoughtful and intelligent. The chat was not overwhelming, and I was actually able to take a short tea break in the middle

IXNAY · 03-28-2003, 01:44 AM

Hey Morgan, what about the transcript?

Jav400 · 03-28-2003, 06:26 AM

Sorry, hopefully soon. Morgan and I have been busy with adding the new fish to the printable guide and the main fish guide page. I know it sounds easy, but there were alot of changes to get it to this point. ( Morgan and I are both picky about quality. ) The chat transcript hasn't been forgotten, its on our list of things to do.

patscarr · 03-28-2003, 07:50 AM

How difficult can a chat transcript be? Isn't a copy and paste kind of thing?

Jav400 · 03-28-2003, 10:58 AM

Nope, not even close. On free chats instead of moderated chats you get everyone posting and asking questions so fast that usually Jim has a difficult time following, and the chat logs look like a jumbled mess. Usually we go through and reorder the lines to get some form of coherent dialogue. Not to mention trying to fix spelling and so on......

03-05-2003, 12:53 AM	#21
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,775	Hi, E-Z -- Welcome to the Forum. Yes, the fish are 3D, and Morgan is right - I used LightWave to create the fish models. Then they are loaded into UView to apply the textures, and saved in OBJ format. Next, I run them through another program I wrote to convert them to .X text files. I then do a lot of manual editing of the text files, and finally convert them to compressed binary .x format. Of course, the first dozen times the fish isn't going to look right, so all this has to be repeated over and over. Even with all this trouble, I consider making the fish the "fun part". Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-05-2003, 04:26 AM	#23
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	Between Morgan ranting, James the ever pitchman for AquaReal, and FearTecs technical questions, is was, all in all, a great chat. Patrick

03-05-2003, 06:20 AM	#24
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	That was about the way the chats usually go. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-05-2003, 07:22 AM	#25
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	YT, I got the "German hens go gak, gak" part from a (U.S.) webpage – Swedish hens go "kaa-kaa" or "kluck kluck" PatShark (pet shark?), I like your summary – including the latst part. /Tiny Shark Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

03-05-2003, 09:43 AM	#27
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Ahhh ok laugh damn I'm late with replying IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

03-05-2003, 04:13 AM	#22
Yellow Tang YT Join Date: Jan 2002 Tournaments Won: 1 Location: Germany Posts: 729	Tiny, the hens over here make the same sounds as yours, "bok bok" is absolutely right! No ga ga hens here. :-)

03-05-2003, 07:35 AM	#26
E-Z Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2	pretty live looking fish for 3D. thanks for the reply and nice work

03-14-2003, 07:33 AM	#28
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Well it seems that I'll have no time to join the chat, some friends will visit me and we're planing to check the nightlife of my city Have fun at the chat, it shhould be really interesting this time. So Morgan please make a quick chatlog IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

03-15-2003, 06:44 AM	#29
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	I'm bailing out too – There's a slim possibility I can make it but it's not likely. /Tiny Dropout Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

03-15-2003, 11:07 AM	#30
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	Geez. We schedule a Euro-friendly time and you guys bail on us. sniff "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-16-2003, 06:31 AM	#31
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Sorry. Big kudos for the timing – but this thing superceeded pretty much everything else... /Calle Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

03-16-2003, 11:46 AM	#32
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	Was she cute? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-17-2003, 04:09 AM	#33
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	I realized I'd get one or two of those jokes after reading my post, but unfortuately this was all bad news /Tiny Problem Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

03-18-2003, 08:35 AM	#34
Derrek Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 186	I'd like to take this time to apologize for my behavior in the last chat with Jim on March 15th. It has come to my attention that I was hogging the question time and not giving the other members a chance to ask questions. It has also come to my attention that some of my questions could have been answered by reading the transcripts of the previous chat with Jim that was back in Feb. So to Jim I'm deeply sorry for asking needless questions and to the others, I'm sorry for "hogging" the chat time with Jim.

03-18-2003, 08:58 AM	#35
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	Don't worry about it Derrek - they argued about DirectX a lot! I'm just hoping my own behaviour was acceptable - I'd just got back from sampling a range of very tasty real ales! Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

03-18-2003, 09:57 AM	#36
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,775	Derrek - No problem at all. Your questions were thoughtful and intelligent. The chat was not overwhelming, and I was actually able to take a short tea break in the middle Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-28-2003, 01:44 AM	#37
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Hey Morgan, what about the transcript? IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

03-28-2003, 06:26 AM	#38
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Sorry, hopefully soon. Morgan and I have been busy with adding the new fish to the printable guide and the main fish guide page. I know it sounds easy, but there were alot of changes to get it to this point. ( Morgan and I are both picky about quality. ) The chat transcript hasn't been forgotten, its on our list of things to do. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-28-2003, 07:50 AM	#39
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	How difficult can a chat transcript be? Isn't a copy and paste kind of thing? Patrick

03-28-2003, 10:58 AM	#40
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Nope, not even close. On free chats instead of moderated chats you get everyone posting and asking questions so fast that usually Jim has a difficult time following, and the chat logs look like a jumbled mess. Usually we go through and reorder the lines to get some form of coherent dialogue. Not to mention trying to fix spelling and so on...... Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection