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Old 03-03-2010, 09:40 PM   #21
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Remote would probably be the equivalent of Borderline(---).

Dale - regarding your post #7, are we sure that bug wasn't fixed already? My notes include the line "Beta10c - fixed default music write-path problem"
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:28 AM   #22
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Originally posted by patscarr:
I know it says "remote," but I hope you can put "Borderline(+)" after "Starfish on glass."  
The issue with the starfish on the glass, as you know, was in the past it happened in the dark.

What has occurred to me (which I've posted before) is that one animation could be built of the starfish climbing up onto the glass. That's not the hard part. The hard part is you never know what angle the starfish will be rotated when it wants to climb up onto the glass.

My thought for this was that the animation would start with the starfish at a specific position and rotation.

Before the starfish can climb up, one of the 5 arms has to be touching the glass. Then there would be a "morph" to get the arms to line up with the starting point of the 'climb' animation. Then invisibly, the starfish would rotate around so that it lines up with the correct rotation that it needs to be to match the animation.

It might look a little clunky before it's received some tuning, but having the starfish slowly climb would be very cool.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:11 AM   #23
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Jim it might be a interim solution, but just to get the starfish on the glass to satisfy users until you do the actual work where people can see it get there - make it go on the glass while the aquarium is dollied to the other side of the aquarium.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:49 AM   #24
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Originally posted by Jav400:
make it go on the glass while the aquarium is dollied to the other side of the aquarium.  
Unfortunately, that wouldn't work for windowed or multi-monitor layouts where there is no scrolling.
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Old 03-04-2010, 07:44 AM   #25
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Previously, getting the starfish onto the glass didn't work for folks who had automatic lighting disabled.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:22 AM   #26
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Rick,



Somehow it sounded better in my head.

Of course I only use one monitor as well.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:57 AM   #27
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
Dale - regarding your post #7, are we sure that bug wasn't fixed already? My notes include the line "Beta10c - fixed default music write-path problem"  
Yes, we are sure.

A. The thread referenced in Post #7 was started December 2009. Well after 10c and 10d.

B. See (for a start) post #20 in the referenced thread. Summary: modal differences in behavior between simulation mode and screensaver preview mode.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:40 AM   #28
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A really simple addition...

Until the adjustable background lighting/colouring can be implemented, the registry hack that Jim gave us some time ago is relatively simple to make, assuming you don't mind monkeying around in the registry.

However, for those who prefer the simple life , download and run the following little script and it will do this for you... BackgroundColor.reg
Using the function keys F1 to F4 will simply return the colours back to the current MA3 defaults.

The BackgroundBottomColor ff113111 and BackgroundTopColor ff000040 in the script can be changed to whatever you want.
But those two values give a rather nice effect, IMHO. (See below...)
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:10 PM   #29
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Originally posted by Jav400:
Somehow it sounded better in my head. Of course I only use one monitor as well.  
No problem! After giving it some thought, it's a bit thornier an issue than I at first thought. You could possibly only have the starfish move onto/off of the glass while not within the visible area, but that might create some jarring visuals. Consider a scenario like this... user is running a dual monitor setup which still allows for panning but the panning just barely hides the lefthand area where the starfish lives before it returns. At the rate of movement the starfish normally moves at, for it to move completely onto the glass in the relatively few seconds that the area would be hidden, would not be life-like at all.

In order for this to qualify as a "simple" thing to do, I think Jim only has one of two options...

1) place a user option in the settings to allow for always showing the starfish either on the glass, or off of the glass. That way the end user could select where they want the starfish to appear. Not a very good solution, but probably the easiest since it avoids the entire transition problem.

2) work out a light cycling solution and transition the starfish in the same way as in v2.

Of course, both of these depend on the routines for displaying the starfish on the glass already being in place. If Jim has to do more work to add that in, then I doubt the starfish on glass CAN be added in as a "simple" addition.
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:31 PM   #30
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3) When MA3 starts, starfish is (randomly? alternately?) in one of the two modes, and stays in that mode.
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Old 03-04-2010, 04:17 PM   #31
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Originally posted by Rick Simon:
1) place a user option in the settings to allow for always showing the starfish either on the glass, or off of the glass. That way the end user could select where they want the starfish to appear. Not a very good solution, but probably the easiest since it avoids the entire transition problem.  
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3) When MA3 starts, starfish is (randomly? alternately?) in one of the two modes, and stays in that mode.  
OK! How about we compromise and say that the starfish can be set to a)floor b)glass or c)random in the settings?

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Old 03-04-2010, 04:27 PM   #32
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Originally posted by Rick Simon:
OK! How about we compromise and say that the starfish can be set to a)floor b)glass or c)random in the settings?

 
I think that would be excellent, and probably acceptable to almost everybody. And it "solves" a particularly tough animation, too. It can't be easy to smoothly transition from the sand to the glass (even if you're a starfish).
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:22 PM   #33
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What if there was some turbulence when the starfish wanted to climb up the glass..Perhaps a release of bubbles that would make a temporary local cloud. when it dissolved the starfish is on the glass, same routine when it wants to come off.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:08 PM   #34
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Wow - which button do I press to make all that happen?
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:24 PM   #35
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Originally posted by Jim Sachs:
Wow - which button do I press to make all that happen?  
It's called the "Any" key.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:57 PM   #36
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Originally posted by Ralph:
What if there was some turbulence when the starfish wanted to climb up the glass..Perhaps a release of bubbles that would make a temporary local cloud. when it dissolved the starfish is on the glass, same routine when it wants to come off.  

Ah, you are talking about the

"wishing star" fish!

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Old 03-05-2010, 02:55 AM   #37
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Question

A desk top short cut

In one of the settings columns could you add a icon (for a better word) so that a desk to short cut can be made.

As you might know I lost my Desk top Icon how??? It took me a long while to find a link program hidden in my C:\ windows etc plus I was getting very frustrated.

Even if the Short Cut is removed it can be easily replaced

I hope this is one worth considering.

Secondly a quick and easy method of selecting your own music.

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Old 03-05-2010, 03:40 AM   #38
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Originally posted by flip:
Secondly a quick and easy method of selecting your own music.  
The Aquarium has a music playlist feature.
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Old 03-05-2010, 04:21 AM   #39
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A really simple addition

Cliff.
I like your choice of the background top colour and would want to replicate it.
My registry shows the following which does not seem to fully relate to your suggested entries.
"BackgroundTopColor Reg_DWORD 0xff5599ff(4283800063)"
I opened your script with WordPad. I could not find Jim's registry hack.
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A really simple addition...

clifdene,
You are quite correct!... that is what the entry looks like in the registry, but you only need to change the hexadecimal number.

If you make the change in the registry itself....
Change only the six digit number after the ff, to the hexadecimal number for the colour you want. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE. (And don't forget the ff)
And if you use or change the script, it MUST be in the style shown in that script, ie... "BackgroundTopColor"=dword:ff000040

For the record... here's - Jim's registry hack!
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