Clams Progress - Page 5

feldon34 · 03-24-2009, 10:19 AM

It's definitely a 2 banana problem.

Jim Sachs · 03-24-2009, 02:36 PM

I've made a lot of progress so far today. All three clams are in their proper positions, opening and closing in the right direction, and not looking too bad. They still need a lot of cleanup to cover gaps and holes in the 3D meshes, but the basic system is in place.

You'd think I would know better at my age, but I made the mistake of not taking the clams seriously enough. Since I have always had a basic plan on how to do them, I didn't really attack the project with full-force. My mind was really on the new fish models/movement, and I was hoping to just get the clams out of the way first. Next time I'll remember that splitting my focus never works, and usually ends up taking twice as long.

cjmaddy · 03-24-2009, 04:42 PM

Then definitely 3 bananas, not two, wouldn't you say?

Jim Sachs · 03-24-2009, 05:18 PM

Yes, if a chimp was doing the job, it would be a three-banana problem. But he'd have an advantage in probably never having seen an actual clam, so he'd be likely to accept a much lower level of quality

Wizwad · 03-24-2009, 05:38 PM

Or lower level of banana. You don't want to put that banana too high up. Chimps aren't very tall.

And talking of stir-crazy, that takes us back to the soup, doesn't it?

feldon34 · 03-24-2009, 09:58 PM

I knew I'd regret my post.

I always do.

JamesGreystone · 03-25-2009, 04:40 PM

Yes we have no Bananas Today...

Sorry couldn't resist. Must be the melting snow making me goofy.

loub516 · 03-30-2009, 06:33 AM

How is the progress with the clams going?

fozzy · 03-30-2009, 11:02 AM

I suspect Jim took a week end off from work... or he is working so hard he didin't even think of updating...

clams clams clams... sounds almost like the monty python sketch on spam...

Jim Sachs · 03-30-2009, 11:23 AM

I've been working on the clams 18 hours a day. Got one done.

MadBob · 03-30-2009, 12:43 PM

I'll take it

Jim Sachs · 03-30-2009, 01:24 PM

Sorry, they come in a set of 3.

Overlord · 03-30-2009, 02:29 PM

So we're looking at another 36 hours if you don't stop to eat or go to the bathroom?

Jav400 · 03-30-2009, 02:54 PM

Your forgetting getting multimonitor support working properly

henemly · 03-30-2009, 03:16 PM

Cool, then the last 2 should be easier.

flyingfish · 03-30-2009, 10:15 PM

Jav 400,

Whats the problem with multi monitor support. I have the beta runing fine on a Matrox Parhillia Triple head and on a Nivida 5500 .

Jim Sachs · 03-31-2009, 12:07 AM

He's talking about getting the clams to show up on multimonitors.

Jav400 · 03-31-2009, 06:00 AM

If anyone remembers, when Jim animated the fans and the sea fingers there were problems with the animations on multi-monitor setups. That was with each item being on the extreme end of the tank. With the clams being pretty much in the middle they will be crossing the DMZ frequently.

Jim Sachs · 03-31-2009, 10:04 AM

Each monitor requres its own Render Unit, with separate copies of all the models, textures, fonts, etc. The animation loops try to time everything so that roughly the same thing appears to be happening on each monitor, but they are really not connected at all. So, just because the clams show up and work on one monitor doesn't mean they will appear on other monitors unless I specifically create and animate them on that Render Unit.

rctneil · 04-03-2009, 03:51 PM

Will we soon be able to see a preview?

03-24-2009, 10:19 AM	#81
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	It's definitely a 2 banana problem. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-24-2009, 02:36 PM	#82
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	I've made a lot of progress so far today. All three clams are in their proper positions, opening and closing in the right direction, and not looking too bad. They still need a lot of cleanup to cover gaps and holes in the 3D meshes, but the basic system is in place. You'd think I would know better at my age, but I made the mistake of not taking the clams seriously enough. Since I have always had a basic plan on how to do them, I didn't really attack the project with full-force. My mind was really on the new fish models/movement, and I was hoping to just get the clams out of the way first. Next time I'll remember that splitting my focus never works, and usually ends up taking twice as long. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-24-2009, 05:18 PM	#84
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	Yes, if a chimp was doing the job, it would be a three-banana problem. But he'd have an advantage in probably never having seen an actual clam, so he'd be likely to accept a much lower level of quality Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-24-2009, 05:38 PM	#85
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	Or lower level of banana. You don't want to put that banana too high up. Chimps aren't very tall. And talking of stir-crazy, that takes us back to the soup, doesn't it? Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

03-24-2009, 09:58 PM	#86
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	I knew I'd regret my post. I always do. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-24-2009, 04:42 PM	#83
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Then definitely 3 bananas, not two, wouldn't you say?

03-25-2009, 04:40 PM	#87
JamesGreystone Registered Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada brrrrrr Posts: 29	Yes we have no Bananas Today... Sorry couldn't resist. Must be the melting snow making me goofy.

03-30-2009, 06:33 AM	#88
loub516 Registered Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Savannah, Ga. Posts: 421	How is the progress with the clams going? LB

03-30-2009, 11:02 AM	#89
fozzy Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 32	I suspect Jim took a week end off from work... or he is working so hard he didin't even think of updating... clams clams clams... sounds almost like the monty python sketch on spam... testing on: ATI Radeon mobility X2300 - Intel(R) 946GZ Express Chipset Family

03-30-2009, 11:23 AM	#90
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	I've been working on the clams 18 hours a day. Got one done. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-30-2009, 12:43 PM	#91
MadBob Guitar Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancs. UK Posts: 194	I'll take it

03-30-2009, 01:24 PM	#92
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	Sorry, they come in a set of 3. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-30-2009, 02:29 PM	#93
Overlord Registered Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 72	So we're looking at another 36 hours if you don't stop to eat or go to the bathroom?

03-30-2009, 02:54 PM	#94
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Your forgetting getting multimonitor support working properly Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-30-2009, 03:16 PM	#95
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Cool, then the last 2 should be easier.

03-30-2009, 10:15 PM	#96
flyingfish Registered Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18	Jav 400, Whats the problem with multi monitor support. I have the beta runing fine on a Matrox Parhillia Triple head and on a Nivida 5500 .

03-31-2009, 12:07 AM	#97
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	He's talking about getting the clams to show up on multimonitors. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-31-2009, 06:00 AM	#98
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	If anyone remembers, when Jim animated the fans and the sea fingers there were problems with the animations on multi-monitor setups. That was with each item being on the extreme end of the tank. With the clams being pretty much in the middle they will be crossing the DMZ frequently. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-31-2009, 10:04 AM	#99
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	Each monitor requres its own Render Unit, with separate copies of all the models, textures, fonts, etc. The animation loops try to time everything so that roughly the same thing appears to be happening on each monitor, but they are really not connected at all. So, just because the clams show up and work on one monitor doesn't mean they will appear on other monitors unless I specifically create and animate them on that Render Unit. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-03-2009, 03:51 PM	#100
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	Will we soon be able to see a preview?