** SS Marine Aquarium 2.0 NEW FISH COMMENTS ** - Page 4

feldon34 · 04-08-2003, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by PaulsPics
I did not realise that this forum was for the computer analysts only but also customers feedback. Based on that I will desist from further stupid comments and await the perfect product, as an enthusiastic fan of Jims original program.

This forum should feel welcome for all members, whether they love the Aquarium, or think there is huge room for improvement.

This thread, specifically, is SUPPOSED to be criticism and/or praise for the 5 new fish created by an artist OTHER than Jim. The honest and open reactions here will set the tone for future additions of this nature.

We want to know how people would react if, for instance, more than 50% of the freshwater fish were created by artists at Prolific. That would be some controversy...

ROBERT CRONSHAW · 04-08-2003, 02:47 PM

There is always room for improvement,but like i said before it took 6 days to build Rome, give em a chance.

Digital Lungfish · 04-09-2003, 12:18 AM

Thanks Reichart, Morgan, and Tiny, you guys understand where I'm coming from and I appreciate that. Anyway, sorry if I caused our thread to stray from it's original topic guys.

feldon34 · 04-09-2003, 02:38 AM

Ok, this poll has been up for 3 weeks now. Let's try to get some statistics from it. vBulletin's poll system does not come with a grouping feature, so I'm breaking out the calculator.

<table><tr><td colspan=3>Satisfaction (per fish):</td></tr><tr><td>Blue Ring Angel 34/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar1-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar1.gif" width="78" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar1-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(43%)</td></tr><tr><td>Imperator Angel 43/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar2-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar2.gif" width="115" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar2-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(54%)</td></tr><tr><td>Redfin Butterfly 41/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar3-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar3.gif" width="99" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(52%)</td></tr><tr><td>Rock Beauty Angel 31/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar4-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar4.gif" width="69" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar4-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(39%)</td></tr><tr><td>Squarespot Anthias 35/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar5-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar5.gif" width="81" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar5-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(44%)</td></tr><tr><td height=30 valign="bottom" colspan=3>Other Artists besides Jim:</td></tr><tr><td>Creating fish & special creatures ~ 38/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar6-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar6.gif" width="90" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar6-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(48%)</td></tr><tr><td>Creating fish ~ 44/79* </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar5-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar5.gif" width="111" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar5-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(56%)</td></tr><tr><td>Neither ~ 16/79** </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar4-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar4.gif" width="24" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar4-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(20%)</td></tr></table>
*Non-duplicated combined votes from choices 1 & 2
**3-way votes counted towards choice #3

I expect there is a large margin of error.

GreenHsiF · 04-19-2003, 10:48 AM

I hope that the future fish of this aquarium will have more colors to them than blue and yellow.Like green fish and red fish and grey,etc.

starfish · 06-15-2003, 09:50 PM

I like them all but especially the rock beauty angel. I love black fish or ones with significant black portions. I would love to see mollies when there is a freshwater aquarium. They were my favorites when I had a real aquarium.

feldon34 · 06-16-2003, 08:21 AM

I was a bit surprised that all adult fish were chosen.

The | Tycoon · 06-16-2003, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by feldon27
You're now able to pick the new "Blue" theme (actually created for the Mac forum) {EDIT:} in the Settings panel under Options near the bottom.

Hi,
Can't find these settings

What version do they apear under ?

Cheers...

feldon34 · 06-16-2003, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by The | Tycoon
Hi,
Can't find these settings
What version do they apear under ?

Cheers...

You can change which color theme this Forum appears in here:
https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...on=editoptions

GreenHsiF · 06-16-2003, 10:13 PM

Has Jim rejected alot of artists trying to get new fish getting added to the aquarium?What kinds of things does he look for before he will except it?

Jim Sachs · 06-17-2003, 12:08 AM

I'd really rather that no one else adds fish, since that's the only fun part for me. It's like going to all the trouble of growing wheat, grinding it into flour, baking the bread, and someone else comes along and eats the sandwich.

feldon34 · 06-17-2003, 01:05 AM

Now that everyone's plates seem to be getting bigger, maybe you'll make more detailed sandwiches?

Wizwad · 06-17-2003, 06:34 AM

With more fillings!

I like this metaphor!

feldon34 · 06-17-2003, 10:28 AM

And controversial sandwiches too.

patscarr · 06-17-2003, 10:31 PM

Is it one of those huge "Dagwood" kind of sandwiches?

phauxxee · 06-21-2003, 08:42 PM

I'm new here, so please forgive if I overstep any boundaries here by asking a few questions.

I'll be purchasing my first Marine Tank Screensaver hopefully by next payday, and have been wondering if there's a place to view everything one gets when ordering? I'd like to see what sort of plants and other goodies come along with the package if possible. I have been enjoying the 'demo' so much that I'm getting anxious to finally own my very own fully functional program.

Something else I've been wondering about; are there any plans on making more elaborate backgrounds for the Tanks? There is another program ( the 'sim aqaurium') but the fish are not as lovely and natural moving as Jim's are. What I do like about the other program, though, is the way they show sunlight filtering through the top of the tank, and the depth is done so well, fading off the way real underwater worlds do. Other than those 2 things, I just am not happy enough with these things to want this 'other' program. That's why I've joined Jim's fans and followers here, because this is by far the most beautiful and realistic aquarium program I've seen in the last 10 years. Hopefully I'll be able to add the Goldfish and the Freshwater Screensavers soon too!

feldon34 · 06-22-2003, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by phauxxee
I'll be purchasing my first Marine Tank Screensaver hopefully by next payday

Awesome!

Originally posted by phauxxee
and have been wondering if there's a place to view everything one gets when ordering?

https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/thefish.html

Originally posted by phauxxee
I'd like to see what sort of plants and other goodies come along with the package if possible.

No plants, just 23 more fish.

Originally posted by phauxxee
Something else I've been wondering about; are there any plans on making more elaborate backgrounds for the Tanks?

The Marine Aquarium is Jim Sachs' project and every indication is, we will see an updated background in the future.

Originally posted by phauxxee
There is another program ( the 'sim aqaurium') but the fish are not as lovely and natural moving as Jim's are. What I do like about the other program, though, is the way they show sunlight filtering through the top of the tank, and the depth is done so well, fading off the way real underwater worlds do.

SereneScreen Marine Aquarium is a personal fishtank, not a reflection of the ocean. To do an ocean simulation, I think Jim feels he would have to make too many compromises or require a top-of-the-line videocard.

Originally posted by phauxxee
Hopefully I'll be able to add the Goldfish and the Freshwater Screensavers soon too!

Jim is working on the Freshwater now and the programmers and artist on the Goldfish project seem to be on early summer hiatus but I figure we'll see a new version soon.

and Welcome to the forum!!

phauxxee · 06-22-2003, 12:40 PM

Thank you for all the information, and the Welcome, Feldon.

Of course, anything that's going to require I have to update my NVidia GeForce MX 440 again (?) is not something I look forward to. All these bells and whistles get quite expensive and have kept me here in the background for 2 years just trying to upgrade my own computer so I could one day use this program

BTW, here's another site that has some lovely images for anyone who may not have found this site yet... but I kind of doubt that it's possible to find a site that all of you haven't found already by now!

http://www.riebesell.net/aquaria/mgallery.cfm

feldon34 · 06-22-2003, 01:30 PM

A GeForce MX 440 is more than enough for any forseeable screen savers from Jim Sachs. (famous last words!)

Tornado Tom · 07-01-2003, 10:26 PM

almost real ehhhh! Great looking fishies.

View Poll Results: What do you think of the new fish? (MULTIPLE CHOICE!!!)
<img src="images/smilies/thumb.gif" align="middle"> Blue Ring Angelfish	43	40.19%
<img src="images/smilies/thumb.gif" align="middle"> Imperator Angelfish	51	47.66%
<img src="images/smilies/thumb.gif" align="middle"> Redfin Butterflyfish	51	47.66%
<img src="images/smilies/thumb.gif" align="middle"> Rock Beauty Angelfish	38	35.51%
<img src="images/smilies/thumb.gif" align="middle"> Squarespot Anthias	43	40.19%
<img src="images/space.gif" width=4 height=1 align="middle"><img src="images/smilies/biggrin.gif" align="middle"><img src="images/space.gif" width=4 height=1 align="middle"> I can't wait for other artists to do more fish and/or special creatures!	52	48.60%
<img src="images/space.gif" width=2 height=1 align="middle"><img src="images/smilies/artist.gif" align="middle"><img src="images/space.gif" width=1 height=1 align="middle"> I would like to see more fish by other artists.	26	24.30%
<img src="images/space.gif" width=4 height=1 align="middle"><img src="images/smilies/erm.gif" align="middle"><img src="images/space.gif" width=4 height=1 align="middle"> I would prefer if Jim did all new fish/creatures.	27	25.23%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 107. You may not vote on this poll

04-08-2003, 11:48 AM	#61
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by PaulsPics I did not realise that this forum was for the computer analysts only but also customers feedback. Based on that I will desist from further stupid comments and await the perfect product, as an enthusiastic fan of Jims original program. This forum should feel welcome for all members, whether they love the Aquarium, or think there is huge room for improvement. This thread, specifically, is SUPPOSED to be criticism and/or praise for the 5 new fish created by an artist OTHER than Jim. The honest and open reactions here will set the tone for future additions of this nature. We want to know how people would react if, for instance, more than 50% of the freshwater fish were created by artists at Prolific. That would be some controversy... "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-09-2003, 12:18 AM	#63
Digital Lungfish Obey the toad! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,557	Thanks Reichart, Morgan, and Tiny, you guys understand where I'm coming from and I appreciate that. Anyway, sorry if I caused our thread to stray from it's original topic guys. Steve www.tron-sector.com - www.badcartridge.com - www.classicgaming.com - www.dinofish.com Today is the tomorrow you were worried about yesterday...

04-09-2003, 02:38 AM	#64
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Ok, this poll has been up for 3 weeks now. Let's try to get some statistics from it. vBulletin's poll system does not come with a grouping feature, so I'm breaking out the calculator. <table><tr><td colspan=3><b>Satisfaction</b> (per fish):</td></tr><tr><td><b>Blue Ring Angel</b> 34/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar1-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar1.gif" width="78" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar1-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(43%)</td></tr><tr><td><b>Imperator Angel</b> 43/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar2-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar2.gif" width="115" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar2-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(54%)</td></tr><tr><td><b>Redfin Butterfly</b> 41/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar3-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar3.gif" width="99" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(52%)</td></tr><tr><td><b>Rock Beauty Angel</b> 31/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar4-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar4.gif" width="69" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar4-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(39%)</td></tr><tr><td><b>Squarespot Anthias</b> 35/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar5-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar5.gif" width="81" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar5-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(44%)</td></tr><tr><td height=30 valign="bottom" colspan=3><b>Other Artists besides Jim</b>:</td></tr><tr><td><b>Creating fish & special creatures</b> ~ 38/79 </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar6-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar6.gif" width="90" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar6-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(48%)</td></tr><tr><td><b>Creating fish</b> ~ 44/79<font size=1></font></b> </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar5-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar5.gif" width="111" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar5-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(56%)</td></tr><tr><td><b>Neither</b> ~ 16/79<font size=1></font></b> </td><td><img src="images/polls/bar4-l.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar4.gif" width="24" height="10" alt=""><img src="images/polls/bar4-r.gif" width="3" height="10" alt=""></td><td>(20%)</td></tr></table> <font size=1>Non-duplicated combined votes from choices 1 & 2 **3-way votes counted towards choice #3</font> I expect there is a large margin of error. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-16-2003, 08:21 AM	#67
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	I was a bit surprised that all adult fish were chosen. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-08-2003, 02:47 PM	#62
ROBERT CRONSHAW TheMissingLink Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: lytham st annes--uk Posts: 12	There is always room for improvement,but like i said before it took 6 days to build Rome, give em a chance.

04-19-2003, 10:48 AM	#65
GreenHsiF SereneScreenFanatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 261	I hope that the future fish of this aquarium will have more colors to them than blue and yellow.Like green fish and red fish and grey,etc.

06-15-2003, 09:50 PM	#66
starfish Registered Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 152	I like them all but especially the rock beauty angel. I love black fish or ones with significant black portions. I would love to see mollies when there is a freshwater aquarium. They were my favorites when I had a real aquarium.

06-16-2003, 06:48 PM	#68
The \| Tycoon Registered Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 19	Originally posted by feldon27 You're now able to pick the new "Blue" theme (actually created for the Mac forum) {EDIT:} in the Settings panel under Options near the bottom. Hi, Can't find these settings What version do they apear under ? Cheers... ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°¤ The \| Tycoon Ô¿Ô ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°¤

06-16-2003, 08:45 PM	#69
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by The \| Tycoon Hi, Can't find these settings What version do they apear under ? Cheers... You can change which color theme this Forum appears in here: https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...on=editoptions "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-16-2003, 10:13 PM	#70
GreenHsiF SereneScreenFanatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 261	Has Jim rejected alot of artists trying to get new fish getting added to the aquarium?What kinds of things does he look for before he will except it?

06-17-2003, 12:08 AM	#71
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	I'd really rather that no one else adds fish, since that's the only fun part for me. It's like going to all the trouble of growing wheat, grinding it into flour, baking the bread, and someone else comes along and eats the sandwich. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

06-17-2003, 01:05 AM	#72
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Now that everyone's plates seem to be getting bigger, maybe you'll make more detailed sandwiches? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-17-2003, 06:34 AM	#73
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	With more fillings! I like this metaphor! Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

06-17-2003, 10:28 AM	#74
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	And controversial sandwiches too. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-17-2003, 10:31 PM	#75
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	Is it one of those huge "Dagwood" kind of sandwiches? Patrick

06-21-2003, 08:42 PM	#76
phauxxee Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 12	I'm new here, so please forgive if I overstep any boundaries here by asking a few questions. I'll be purchasing my first Marine Tank Screensaver hopefully by next payday, and have been wondering if there's a place to view everything one gets when ordering? I'd like to see what sort of plants and other goodies come along with the package if possible. I have been enjoying the 'demo' so much that I'm getting anxious to finally own my very own fully functional program. Something else I've been wondering about; are there any plans on making more elaborate backgrounds for the Tanks? There is another program ( the 'sim aqaurium') but the fish are not as lovely and natural moving as Jim's are. What I do like about the other program, though, is the way they show sunlight filtering through the top of the tank, and the depth is done so well, fading off the way real underwater worlds do. Other than those 2 things, I just am not happy enough with these things to want this 'other' program. That's why I've joined Jim's fans and followers here, because this is by far the most beautiful and realistic aquarium program I've seen in the last 10 years. Hopefully I'll be able to add the Goldfish and the Freshwater Screensavers soon too!

06-22-2003, 08:06 AM	#77
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by phauxxee I'll be purchasing my first Marine Tank Screensaver hopefully by next payday Awesome! Originally posted by phauxxee and have been wondering if there's a place to view everything one gets when ordering? https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/thefish.html Originally posted by phauxxee I'd like to see what sort of plants and other goodies come along with the package if possible. No plants, just 23 more fish. Originally posted by phauxxee Something else I've been wondering about; are there any plans on making more elaborate backgrounds for the Tanks? The Marine Aquarium is Jim Sachs' project and every indication is, we will see an updated background in the future. Originally posted by phauxxee There is another program ( the 'sim aqaurium') but the fish are not as lovely and natural moving as Jim's are. What I do like about the other program, though, is the way they show sunlight filtering through the top of the tank, and the depth is done so well, fading off the way real underwater worlds do. SereneScreen Marine Aquarium is a personal fishtank, not a reflection of the ocean. To do an ocean simulation, I think Jim feels he would have to make too many compromises or require a top-of-the-line videocard. Originally posted by phauxxee Hopefully I'll be able to add the Goldfish and the Freshwater Screensavers soon too! Jim is working on the Freshwater now and the programmers and artist on the Goldfish project seem to be on early summer hiatus but I figure we'll see a new version soon. and Welcome to the forum!! "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

06-22-2003, 12:40 PM	#78
phauxxee Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 12	Thank you for all the information, and the Welcome, Feldon. Of course, anything that's going to require I have to update my NVidia GeForce MX 440 again (?) is not something I look forward to. All these bells and whistles get quite expensive and have kept me here in the background for 2 years just trying to upgrade my own computer so I could one day use this program BTW, here's another site that has some lovely images for anyone who may not have found this site yet... but I kind of doubt that it's possible to find a site that all of you haven't found already by now! http://www.riebesell.net/aquaria/mgallery.cfm

06-22-2003, 01:30 PM	#79
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	A GeForce MX 440 is more than enough for any forseeable screen savers from Jim Sachs. (famous last words!) "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

07-01-2003, 10:26 PM	#80
Tornado Tom Tommy Turtle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, CA Posts: 78	almost real ehhhh! Great looking fishies. 14 Little Fish Needs A New Larger Aquarium!