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Jav400 · 07-12-2007, 08:53 PM

Why does it not supprise me that MS code works in this manner.

Ad_Enuff · 07-13-2007, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by Jav400:

Why does it not supprise me that MS code works in this manner.

The way Jim has worked out is how game companies deal with it, its really stupid way of programming but then again we are talking about Microsoft here, they never seem to do things straight forward.

I guess there is a reason to their madness?!

drfish · 07-13-2007, 10:14 AM

Is it a limit of the DirectX version you're using? I ask because I recall geometry instancing being a PS 3.0 feature and it sounds like what you're looking for is an equivalent for textures...

Jim Sachs · 07-13-2007, 03:49 PM

I'm using DX8/DX9. I'm not really looking for code to do this - it's not very hard to write, just drudgery. I was just amazed that the supposedly optimized code in the DX SDK didn't already do it. Someday we'll have code with its own artificial intelligence, whcih will say to itself, "hmmm...this same texture filename seems to be popping up rather often. Why don't I just use one of the instances I've already loaded?"

Jav400 · 07-13-2007, 03:51 PM

If we ever do its my bet that M$ won't be the one to design it.

Not unless it takes over the world and spawns a race of machines bent on killing humans.

cjmaddy · 07-13-2007, 04:07 PM

Well, they've fulfilled the first two parts of that statement!

Jim Sachs · 07-13-2007, 04:29 PM

But if they kill humans, who will buy their software? No, I'm sure that merely enslaving humans would satisfy them.

(Late news: I just did a deeper search of the DX SDK and found a texture-helper routine which does manage textures. The trouble was, their own code does not use it. That's my main problem with MS - no instructions. I guess all their Direct-X guys are planning to quit MS and write their own books, so they'd like to keep this stuff secret until they do.)

Wizwad · 08-06-2007, 03:27 PM

Hi Jim, just wondering how things're coming along with the learning curve. Are things getting clearer yet?

Jim Sachs · 08-06-2007, 06:51 PM

Yes.

Wizwad · 08-07-2007, 05:49 AM

Excellent!

Maybe in your copious spare time

you can write a user-friendly guide to DX for those still struggling.

ESHIREY · 08-07-2007, 11:58 AM

That is good news.

bozpool · 08-23-2007, 11:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe_IhgJ4sLQ Very beautiful. I am waiting 3.

Jim Sachs · 08-24-2007, 12:51 AM

As usual, the guy didn't say anything about the fact that it's SereneScreen, or where to get it.

ESHIREY · 08-24-2007, 05:57 PM

The way it looks he's taking credit for it.

Tiny Turtle · 08-25-2007, 08:21 AM

I posted a comment on the video saying it would only be fair if he mentioned that the screensaver was made by Jim Sachs of www.serenescreen.com yesterday, but he just deleted it.

Jim Sachs · 08-25-2007, 09:56 AM

Well, thanks for the effort, TT.

ESHIREY · 08-25-2007, 09:56 AM

That little p@!#k

Highlander · 08-26-2007, 01:37 PM

i mailed him 2 and he said its corrected

and credits will go to jim

Tiny Turtle · 08-26-2007, 02:36 PM

They definately do now. Thanks, Dirk!

Rob · 08-29-2007, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Tiny Turtle:

I posted a comment on the video saying it would only be fair if he mentioned that the screensaver was made by Jim Sachs of www.serenescreen.com yesterday, but he just deleted it.

guy must have added it to the comments, or it was already there. I dont know which.

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07-12-2007, 08:53 PM	#721
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Why does it not supprise me that MS code works in this manner. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

07-13-2007, 07:33 AM	#722
Ad_Enuff Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 99	Originally posted by Jav400: Why does it not supprise me that MS code works in this manner. The way Jim has worked out is how game companies deal with it, its really stupid way of programming but then again we are talking about Microsoft here, they never seem to do things straight forward. I guess there is a reason to their madness?! AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 3600.0 MHz, 16Gb DDR4 RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, 4Gb RAM, Windows 10 PRO 64Bit

07-13-2007, 10:14 AM	#723
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,374	Is it a limit of the DirectX version you're using? I ask because I recall geometry instancing being a PS 3.0 feature and it sounds like what you're looking for is an equivalent for textures... I don't watch commercials.

07-13-2007, 03:49 PM	#724
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	I'm using DX8/DX9. I'm not really looking for code to do this - it's not very hard to write, just drudgery. I was just amazed that the supposedly optimized code in the DX SDK didn't already do it. Someday we'll have code with its own artificial intelligence, whcih will say to itself, "hmmm...this same texture filename seems to be popping up rather often. Why don't I just use one of the instances I've already loaded?" Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

07-13-2007, 03:51 PM	#725
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	If we ever do its my bet that M$ won't be the one to design it. Not unless it takes over the world and spawns a race of machines bent on killing humans. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

07-13-2007, 04:07 PM	#726
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	Well, they've fulfilled the first two parts of that statement!

07-13-2007, 04:29 PM	#727
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	But if they kill humans, who will buy their software? No, I'm sure that merely enslaving humans would satisfy them. (Late news: I just did a deeper search of the DX SDK and found a texture-helper routine which does manage textures. The trouble was, their own code does not use it. That's my main problem with MS - no instructions. I guess all their Direct-X guys are planning to quit MS and write their own books, so they'd like to keep this stuff secret until they do.) Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium Last edited by Jim Sachs; 07-13-2007 at 05:30 PM.

08-06-2007, 03:27 PM	#728
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	Hi Jim, just wondering how things're coming along with the learning curve. Are things getting clearer yet? Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

08-06-2007, 06:51 PM	#729
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Yes. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

08-07-2007, 05:49 AM	#730
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	Excellent! Maybe in your copious spare time you can write a user-friendly guide to DX for those still struggling. Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

08-07-2007, 11:58 AM	#731
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	That is good news. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

08-23-2007, 11:37 PM	#732
bozpool Registered Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 31	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe_IhgJ4sLQ Very beautiful. I am waiting 3.

08-24-2007, 12:51 AM	#733
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	As usual, the guy didn't say anything about the fact that it's SereneScreen, or where to get it. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

08-24-2007, 05:57 PM	#734
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	The way it looks he's taking credit for it. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

08-25-2007, 08:21 AM	#735
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	I posted a comment on the video saying it would only be fair if he mentioned that the screensaver was made by Jim Sachs of www.serenescreen.com yesterday, but he just deleted it. Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

08-25-2007, 09:56 AM	#736
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Well, thanks for the effort, TT. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

08-25-2007, 09:56 AM	#737
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	That little p@!#k Thank you for taking the time to read this.

08-26-2007, 01:37 PM	#738
Highlander Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 87	i mailed him 2 and he said its corrected and credits will go to jim Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups ! Last edited by Highlander; 08-27-2007 at 10:18 AM.

08-26-2007, 02:36 PM	#739
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	They definately do now. Thanks, Dirk! Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

08-29-2007, 04:27 PM	#740
Rob Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 33	Originally posted by Tiny Turtle: I posted a comment on the video saying it would only be fair if he mentioned that the screensaver was made by Jim Sachs of www.serenescreen.com yesterday, but he just deleted it. guy must have added it to the comments, or it was already there. I dont know which. ------------ Video made with one of the most beautiful screensavers around. It was created by Jim Sachs at www.serenescreen.com. Well worth the money and they even have a version with a clock. A new version is also in the works. Muzik made with Korg Wavestation software. Visit my website at www.myspace.com/mars53muzik (more) --------------------