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memilm · 05-31-2002, 03:26 AM

The "save as" button would be nice completed with a "save" button, for the opened setting-file, to save as the same file-name.
The suggestion from James seems to me very nice and logical to implement, I agree them all.

Mountainmaster · 05-31-2002, 11:08 AM

James,

Make the fish appears translucent while dragging

That would be nice yes. Unfortunately the drag-image must be an icon file. If I am not mistaken Windows XP supports translucent icons, but what about us non-WinXP users then?

make it as big as shown on the slots

They are, but Visual Basic shrinks them down.

hot-key for function short cut

Good idea, I will do that.

memilm,

a "save" button, for the opened setting-file, to save as the same file-name.

Yes, that would be a logical addition. I think there is just enough room to squeeze one in.

And you'll be happy to know that I added the "load last saved custom setting" option. I hope it works the way you wanted.

Fish Picker 2.0.5: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/picker.zip

memilm · 05-31-2002, 01:57 PM

It works fine, but the "load last used custom setting" option would be better as the actually with "last save setting". What do you mean?

Mountainmaster · 05-31-2002, 03:10 PM

memilm,
Ah, now I see. You want the program to remember the last setting you were working on, right? Changing it now...

... and done! Also added hot-keys and the extra 'Save' button.

Fish Picker 2.0.8: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/picker.zip

cimeboat · 06-01-2002, 11:13 PM

Thanks Mountainmaster for all your work. At least now I know what fish I select looks like! Also it's nice to have the starfish on the glass without waiting for HOURS!!!

memilm · 06-02-2002, 12:50 AM

The program work fine now with the last used settings.
Is there another posibility to make an option to overwrite the settings without this popup window (for "save as" and "save" buttons?

Mountainmaster · 06-02-2002, 11:34 AM

memilm,
I made 2 seperate options for disabling the overwrite or delete confirmations.

Fish Picker 2.0.9: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/picker.zip

memilm · 06-02-2002, 01:08 PM

Thanks for making so quickly the changes.
The keyboard shortcuts work also very fine ...

memilm · 06-11-2002, 12:46 AM

Can you add keyboard shortcuts to the rest of the buttons and the menu-options? It would be also nice to set the position of the strarfish directly, something like "STRG"+"Shift"+"E"...
And at last with hitting "ESC" to end the program.

James · 06-11-2002, 01:16 AM

Alt + F4 will close the programe...
no need to use "ESC" key I reckon

Mountainmaster · 06-11-2002, 07:42 AM

memilm,

Can you add keyboard shortcuts to the rest of the buttons and the menu-options?

I considered that when I added the other shortcuts but rejected it for the following reasons.

'Save As' button: If you look at your average Windows application (e.g. notepad) you'll notice that there are no shortcuts for 'Save As', because it opens another dialog where you must type or click anyway.

'Options' menu: These are not meant to use often and therefore don't need shortcuts. The idea is that once you found your preferred configuration you leave the options alone. Plus with shortcuts someone could accidently change them.

It would be also nice to set the position of the strarfish directly

Have you tried 'shift+F6' and then 'e'?

Mountainmaster · 06-23-2002, 01:52 PM

Small update to the Fish Picker. A few tweaks and fixes.

version 2.1: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/picker.zip

Mountainmaster · 06-24-2002, 07:26 PM

Well, I finally succeeded in adding Fish Picker to the System Tray. This option is off by default so you'll have to enable it to see any difference from the previous versions. Cool feature: Launch the aquarium from the systray!

version 2.2: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/picker.zip

James · 06-24-2002, 07:51 PM

Great feature...why not improve it with more option...
in tray when minimise or in taskbar when minimise or both tray and task bar?like Winamp has these kind of options.....
this way is more flexible......
and option for default action if double click the tray icon....either start the aquqrium or restore the picker......
only right click if want to access more option....like quick menu for startfish or say just replicate the whole menu item into right click menu of tray icon....?....

James · 06-24-2002, 08:24 PM

and also....u can add icons in the menu
like the following example...

and the bold words r the default action when double click....
so the user can set their default action either start the aquqrium or restore the picker or even more....by their choice....
and u can display the current select tank name in the tooltip of tray icon instead of "Fish Picker (right-click)"

Tiny Turtle · 06-25-2002, 12:58 AM

Guys, guys. Everytime Mountainmaster comes up with a new version of the picker you all go: "Yeahthat'snicebut, couldn't you add these eight or so features also?"

. I do think Ronald likes the input and appreciation you give him, but perhaps the proportions of it should be changed a bit... I dunno, maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here?

/Tiny Picking

P.S.
I like the SysTray feature. Very slick!

James · 06-25-2002, 02:05 AM

umm....did I do something wrong here

*guilty face*
I just reply with my suggestions...I just want the program become better and better....after all....Mountainmaster did achived 90% of my suggestions if u look back all the post and follow the new versions....I think only the user's feedback could be the source of the improvement of all...and that apply to everything in the world...something need something to be affirmative in order to get into next step....u won't improve ur product if u won't get any positive and negtive feedback from anyone..u'll get sluggish about it and never wanna bother it simple beco zno one care it....
but anyway....maybe I ask too much....sorry Mountainmaster...sorry Tiny Turtle

memilm · 06-25-2002, 02:29 AM

I think James have right.
The picker is becoming better and better with the feedbacks and suggestions...
Thanks to Mountainmaster for his time and power to test and try to implement all the functions...

Tiny Turtle · 06-25-2002, 04:41 AM

OK, My previous post sounded a bit harsh and maybe my intentions got a bit lost there. There's no doubt that the picker has improved with every version (with the aid of user input). My point was that whatever MM implemented, there was just a constant expectance for more features. Kinda like when Jim released the 1.1 version with the lionfish. The day after someone posted a question about when the next version was due

.

This really isn't my call – MM will probably tell us his opinion and there's no need to feel sorry for me, James – If things get too rough I just hide inside my shell...

/Tiny Clarification

Mountainmaster · 06-25-2002, 05:53 AM

Tiny,
Thanks for your concern. Sometimes you just need to slow those guys down, right?

But seriously now... I like the user input, so just keep the suggestions coming everyone and from that I'll try to implement whatever I like, whenever I feel like working on it.

James,
No need to apologize to me. Your suggestions have always been valuable, because (like many here) you are both user and software engineer.

both tray and task bar

Sorry, I have to turn you down on that one. I think it would needlessly clutter the taskbar.

if double click the tray icon....either start the aquarium or restore the picker

Yes, gonna look into that.

replicate the whole menu item into right click menu of tray icon

The whole menu seems too much to me, but I shall replicate some of the menu items to the tray icon.

add icons in the menu

I am interested to learn how to do that. But it is not high on my priority list for the picker.

05-31-2002, 03:10 PM	#124
Mountainmaster Liopleurodon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: 3rd planet Posts: 314	memilm, Ah, now I see. You want the program to remember the last setting you were working on, right? Changing it now... ... and done! Also added hot-keys and the extra 'Save' button. Fish Picker 2.0.8: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/picker.zip Last edited by Mountainmaster; 06-01-2002 at 06:57 AM.

06-11-2002, 01:16 AM	#130
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Alt + F4 will close the programe... no need to use "ESC" key I reckon James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

06-24-2002, 07:51 PM	#134
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Great feature...why not improve it with more option... in tray when minimise or in taskbar when minimise or both tray and task bar?like Winamp has these kind of options..... this way is more flexible...... and option for default action if double click the tray icon....either start the aquqrium or restore the picker...... only right click if want to access more option....like quick menu for startfish or say just replicate the whole menu item into right click menu of tray icon....?.... James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

06-25-2002, 12:58 AM	#136
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Guys, guys. Everytime Mountainmaster comes up with a new version of the picker you all go: "Yeahthat'snicebut, couldn't you add these eight or so features also?". I do think Ronald likes the input and appreciation you give him, but perhaps the proportions of it should be changed a bit... I dunno, maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here? /Tiny Picking P.S. I like the SysTray feature. Very slick! Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

06-25-2002, 02:05 AM	#137
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	umm....did I do something wrong here guilty face I just reply with my suggestions...I just want the program become better and better....after all....Mountainmaster did achived 90% of my suggestions if u look back all the post and follow the new versions....I think only the user's feedback could be the source of the improvement of all...and that apply to everything in the world...something need something to be affirmative in order to get into next step....u won't improve ur product if u won't get any positive and negtive feedback from anyone..u'll get sluggish about it and never wanna bother it simple beco zno one care it.... but anyway....maybe I ask too much....sorry Mountainmaster...sorry Tiny Turtle James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

05-31-2002, 03:26 AM	#121
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	The "save as" button would be nice completed with a "save" button, for the opened setting-file, to save as the same file-name. The suggestion from James seems to me very nice and logical to implement, I agree them all.

05-31-2002, 11:08 AM	#122
Mountainmaster Liopleurodon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: 3rd planet Posts: 314	James, Make the fish appears translucent while dragging That would be nice yes. Unfortunately the drag-image must be an icon file. If I am not mistaken Windows XP supports translucent icons, but what about us non-WinXP users then? make it as big as shown on the slots They are, but Visual Basic shrinks them down. hot-key for function short cut Good idea, I will do that. memilm, a "save" button, for the opened setting-file, to save as the same file-name. Yes, that would be a logical addition. I think there is just enough room to squeeze one in. And you'll be happy to know that I added the "load last saved custom setting" option. I hope it works the way you wanted. Fish Picker 2.0.5: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/picker.zip

05-31-2002, 01:57 PM	#123
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	It works fine, but the "load last used custom setting" option would be better as the actually with "last save setting". What do you mean?

06-01-2002, 11:13 PM	#125
cimeboat Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 11	Thanks Mountainmaster for all your work. At least now I know what fish I select looks like! Also it's nice to have the starfish on the glass without waiting for HOURS!!!

06-02-2002, 12:50 AM	#126
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	The program work fine now with the last used settings. Is there another posibility to make an option to overwrite the settings without this popup window (for "save as" and "save" buttons?

06-02-2002, 11:34 AM	#127
Mountainmaster Liopleurodon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: 3rd planet Posts: 314	memilm, I made 2 seperate options for disabling the overwrite or delete confirmations. Fish Picker 2.0.9: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/picker.zip

06-02-2002, 01:08 PM	#128
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	Thanks for making so quickly the changes. The keyboard shortcuts work also very fine ...

06-11-2002, 12:46 AM	#129
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	Can you add keyboard shortcuts to the rest of the buttons and the menu-options? It would be also nice to set the position of the strarfish directly, something like "STRG"+"Shift"+"E"... And at last with hitting "ESC" to end the program.

06-11-2002, 07:42 AM	#131
Mountainmaster Liopleurodon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: 3rd planet Posts: 314	memilm, Can you add keyboard shortcuts to the rest of the buttons and the menu-options? I considered that when I added the other shortcuts but rejected it for the following reasons. 'Save As' button: If you look at your average Windows application (e.g. notepad) you'll notice that there are no shortcuts for 'Save As', because it opens another dialog where you must type or click anyway. 'Options' menu: These are not meant to use often and therefore don't need shortcuts. The idea is that once you found your preferred configuration you leave the options alone. Plus with shortcuts someone could accidently change them. It would be also nice to set the position of the strarfish directly Have you tried 'shift+F6' and then 'e'?

06-23-2002, 01:52 PM	#132
Mountainmaster Liopleurodon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: 3rd planet Posts: 314	Small update to the Fish Picker. A few tweaks and fixes. version 2.1: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/picker.zip

06-24-2002, 07:26 PM	#133
Mountainmaster Liopleurodon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: 3rd planet Posts: 314	Well, I finally succeeded in adding Fish Picker to the System Tray. This option is off by default so you'll have to enable it to see any difference from the previous versions. Cool feature: Launch the aquarium from the systray! version 2.2: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/picker.zip

06-25-2002, 02:29 AM	#138
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	I think James have right. The picker is becoming better and better with the feedbacks and suggestions... Thanks to Mountainmaster for his time and power to test and try to implement all the functions...

06-25-2002, 04:41 AM	#139
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	OK, My previous post sounded a bit harsh and maybe my intentions got a bit lost there. There's no doubt that the picker has improved with every version (with the aid of user input). My point was that whatever MM implemented, there was just a constant expectance for more features. Kinda like when Jim released the 1.1 version with the lionfish. The day after someone posted a question about when the next version was due . This really isn't my call – MM will probably tell us his opinion and there's no need to feel sorry for me, James – If things get too rough I just hide inside my shell... /Tiny Clarification Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

06-25-2002, 05:53 AM	#140
Mountainmaster Liopleurodon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: 3rd planet Posts: 314	Tiny, Thanks for your concern. Sometimes you just need to slow those guys down, right? But seriously now... I like the user input, so just keep the suggestions coming everyone and from that I'll try to implement whatever I like, whenever I feel like working on it. James, No need to apologize to me. Your suggestions have always been valuable, because (like many here) you are both user and software engineer. both tray and task bar Sorry, I have to turn you down on that one. I think it would needlessly clutter the taskbar. if double click the tray icon....either start the aquarium or restore the picker Yes, gonna look into that. replicate the whole menu item into right click menu of tray icon The whole menu seems too much to me, but I shall replicate some of the menu items to the tray icon. add icons in the menu I am interested to learn how to do that. But it is not high on my priority list for the picker.