*** Future Wishlist Plans Please Vote ***

Jav400 · 03-24-2003, 04:29 PM

We are completely redoing the Wishlist pages on the Marine Aquarium Fan Site. The changes will allow and encourage people to submit photos, suggest features and vote for fish and/or creatures they would like to see in future versions of the Aquarium!

As you may know, we presently have a massive 1,000+ post Marine Aquarium Wishlist topic. I feel that it is too much to ask that a first-time forum visitor read through all of it--especially when much of it is casual discussion. We do not plan to remove this large Wishlist topic, but we do want to allow people to comment about Wishlist items in a more manageable fashion.

To that end, we are considering setting aside an area for comments for each fish/creature. There would be a Comments button, which would take you directly to a fish-specific topic in a hidden part of this forum. This would alleviate scrolling through 40-50 pages of Wishlist to see comments about your favorite 2-3 fish species.

We want visitors to the Fan Site to be able to give their opinions without too much hassle, but we also want keep the Wishlist Feedback areas clear of abuse, ill humor, and/or harrassment.

My opinion is that the Comments button should only be available to Registered forum members, to prevent derogatory comments by passersby. Otherwise I forsee a lot of maintenance for us, a poor experience for first-time visitors who see these comments, and that it would tarnish the quality we have maintained up to this point.

Do you agree that we should we limit posting to the Comments/Feedback area on the Wishlist to Registered forum members?
Otherwise, should any visitor to the Wishlist page be able to post their comments?
Should we start without the Registration requirement and then turn it on if there is repeated abuse?

Please take the time to vote and post any comments on this issue.

Once we have this Wishlist in place, we plan to duplicate the results on the Freshwater Aquarium fan site, and the forthcoming Prolific Goldfish Aquarium fan site as quickly as possible.

Thanks

IXNAY · 04-01-2003, 04:13 PM

Uhm what about to start with low security and if does not work, switch to high security!?

feldon34 · 04-01-2003, 04:27 PM

That's what that voting option is for.

You wouldn't be trying to post that signature icon everywhere possible would you?

I think we're going to have to have a vote on that thing. Jim spent about a month on that artwork for the SereneScreen logo.

IXNAY · 04-02-2003, 08:19 AM

Huh? Is it not ok, when I use it? It's only for the forums...

Jim Sachs · 04-02-2003, 10:00 AM

It leaves a negative impression with that red stncil over it.

IXNAY · 04-02-2003, 10:42 AM

Really? Should I put it out of my signature? Just say it and I'll do...no problem...

feldon34 · 04-02-2003, 10:55 AM

I know I'd rather not see that 3-4 times per page.

IXNAY · 04-02-2003, 12:40 PM

uhm so any signature pic is not allowed?
I could have taken it of myself...

Jav400 · 04-02-2003, 12:58 PM

Ixnay,

According to the registration rules, signature's that include commercial or large files, or anything graphic in nature are not to be. In this case, this one is copyrighted and belongs to Jim, no one can use any part of it without his express permission.

IXNAY · 04-02-2003, 02:08 PM

Oh ok, sorry everyone!!!

feldon34 · 04-21-2003, 01:09 PM

The first fruits of our efforts in redoing the Wishlist are now online. No Voting or Comment system just yet...

https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/wishlist.php

patscarr · 04-21-2003, 10:16 PM

I just checked out the new wishlist and it looks great. Good job Michael and Morgan. I have one suggestion, or question. Could it use cookies to remember our preferences? It defaults at 10 per page and 2 rows. I changed the fish list to show all in 3 rows, then looked at the specialty creatures page and made the same change, then went back to the fish page and it showed the default settings again and I had to change it again.

feldon34 · 04-21-2003, 11:19 PM

Actually, it forgets the per-row when switching categories by design. Fairly easy fix I suppose, but would rather use a token so that I can handle 10 categories without something like:

wishlist.php?category=Fish&size=thumbs&category1pe rrows=3&category2perrows=3&category3perrows=3
&category4perrows=3&category5perrows=3&category6pe rrows=3&category7perrows=3
&category8perrows=3&category9perrows=3&category9pe rrows=3

If I do a token, then it will be something like &remember_perrows=32203B4 (if there were 7 categories and you wanted rows to be 3, 2, 2, 0, 3, 11, and 4).

Glad you like it so far.

Jav400 · 04-22-2003, 01:51 AM

Thanks for the comment Pat.

View Poll Results: How secure should the Wishlist Feedback forum be?
High Security: Keep the quality of wishlist comments high!	35	51.47%
Lower Security: Everyone should be able to comment!	24	35.29%
Having a comment area for each fish is overkill. Don't worry about it.	7	10.29%
Undecided	2	2.94%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

03-24-2003, 04:29 PM	#1
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	* Future Wishlist Plans Please Vote * We are completely redoing the Wishlist pages on the Marine Aquarium Fan Site. The changes will allow and encourage people to submit photos, suggest features and vote for fish and/or creatures they would like to see in future versions of the Aquarium! As you may know, we presently have a massive 1,000+ post Marine Aquarium Wishlist topic. I feel that it is too much to ask that a first-time forum visitor read through all of it--especially when much of it is casual discussion. We do not plan to remove this large Wishlist topic, but we do want to allow people to comment about Wishlist items in a more manageable fashion. To that end, we are considering setting aside an area for comments for each fish/creature. There would be a Comments button, which would take you directly to a fish-specific topic in a hidden part of this forum. This would alleviate scrolling through 40-50 pages of Wishlist to see comments about your favorite 2-3 fish species. We want visitors to the Fan Site to be able to give their opinions without too much hassle, but we also want keep the Wishlist Feedback areas clear of abuse, ill humor, and/or harrassment. My opinion is that the Comments button should only be available to Registered forum members, to prevent derogatory comments by passersby. Otherwise I forsee a lot of maintenance for us, a poor experience for first-time visitors who see these comments, and that it would tarnish the quality we have maintained up to this point. Do you agree that we should we limit posting to the Comments/Feedback area on the Wishlist to Registered forum members? Otherwise, should any visitor to the Wishlist page be able to post their comments? Should we start without the Registration requirement and then turn it on if there is repeated abuse? Please take the time to vote and post any comments on this issue. Once we have this Wishlist in place, we plan to duplicate the results on the Freshwater Aquarium fan site, and the forthcoming Prolific Goldfish Aquarium fan site as quickly as possible. Thanks Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection Last edited by feldon34; 03-24-2003 at 06:26 PM.

04-01-2003, 04:13 PM	#2
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Uhm what about to start with low security and if does not work, switch to high security!? IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

04-01-2003, 04:27 PM	#3
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	That's what that voting option is for. You wouldn't be trying to post that signature icon everywhere possible would you? I think we're going to have to have a vote on that thing. Jim spent about a month on that artwork for the SereneScreen logo. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-02-2003, 08:19 AM	#4
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Huh? Is it not ok, when I use it? It's only for the forums... IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

04-02-2003, 10:00 AM	#5
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,781	It leaves a negative impression with that red stncil over it. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-02-2003, 10:42 AM	#6
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Really? Should I put it out of my signature? Just say it and I'll do...no problem... IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

04-02-2003, 10:55 AM	#7
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	I know I'd rather not see that 3-4 times per page. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-02-2003, 12:40 PM	#8
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	uhm so any signature pic is not allowed? I could have taken it of myself... IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

04-02-2003, 12:58 PM	#9
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Ixnay, According to the registration rules, signature's that include commercial or large files, or anything graphic in nature are not to be. In this case, this one is copyrighted and belongs to Jim, no one can use any part of it without his express permission. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

04-02-2003, 02:08 PM	#10
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Oh ok, sorry everyone!!! IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

04-21-2003, 01:09 PM	#11
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	The first fruits of our efforts in redoing the Wishlist are now online. No Voting or Comment system just yet... https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/wishlist.php "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-21-2003, 10:16 PM	#12
patscarr Pet Shark Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in Buffalo Posts: 5,455	I just checked out the new wishlist and it looks great. Good job Michael and Morgan. I have one suggestion, or question. Could it use cookies to remember our preferences? It defaults at 10 per page and 2 rows. I changed the fish list to show all in 3 rows, then looked at the specialty creatures page and made the same change, then went back to the fish page and it showed the default settings again and I had to change it again. Patrick

04-21-2003, 11:19 PM	#13
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Actually, it forgets the per-row when switching categories by design. Fairly easy fix I suppose, but would rather use a token so that I can handle 10 categories without something like: wishlist.php?category=Fish&size=thumbs&category1pe rrows=3&category2perrows=3&category3perrows=3 &category4perrows=3&category5perrows=3&category6pe rrows=3&category7perrows=3 &category8perrows=3&category9perrows=3&category9pe rrows=3 If I do a token, then it will be something like &remember_perrows=32203B4 (if there were 7 categories and you wanted rows to be 3, 2, 2, 0, 3, 11, and 4). Glad you like it so far. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman Last edited by feldon34; 04-22-2003 at 12:02 AM.

04-22-2003, 01:51 AM	#14
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Thanks for the comment Pat. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection