*** Back in Business! ***

feldon34 · 01-30-2002, 11:13 PM

Good grief what a mess!

We've been running vBulletin version 2.0.3 since October and I felt it was time to upgrade to 2.2.2.

Right thing: Making a backup of the entire forum before I tried anything!

Wrong thing: Trying to update the forum in a different sequence than the instructions at vbulletin.com state. I wanted to update the forum without losing some of the customizations I've made, but that didn't work.

Result? We've been out of commission since 9pm last night.

Part of the problem? Up until this evening, I did not have direct access to the MySQL database the forum runs on. I've straightened that out with my web host. So now, if we have a database problem, I can stay up all night fixing it, instead of waiting for my host tech support guys to do something.

Lesson learned? Follow the steps exactly and I'm going to use a program called Beyond Compare to keep up with the differences between the vanilla 2.2.2 forum and any modifications I make so they can be ripped out, I can upgrade to, say 2.2.3, then restore the modifications.

If you have any trouble with the forum, please let me know by e-mail or by posting here!! Some cosmetic characteristics of the forum haven't been restored yet. I've also dispatched an e-mail to all the forum members to let you guys know the forum is back online.

hayc59 · 01-30-2002, 11:38 PM

we know you bust your rear off for us. so i want to thank you for all you guys do!!

Shinsa · 01-31-2002, 12:02 AM

Awesome work Morgan... You're doing GREAT!

Jav400 · 01-31-2002, 12:07 AM

Well its good to be back, I already see several new things available.

The_Thrill · 01-31-2002, 01:00 AM

What if we didnt get the email?

feldon34 · 01-31-2002, 01:16 AM

Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn

How many things can go wrong today?

Ok, way back when I created the forum, I pared down many of the settings in the Registration steps. I put some really good defaults as far as what to display and what not to display, etc.

I goofed on one thing.

"Allow administrators and moderators to send you e-mails?" was supposed to be set to On by default. It wasn't. I've just fixed the template so that all new users will have this switched On by default.

So I'm going to go through tonight and fix this for all the users. After all, we wouldn't want to have someone left out of the 1.1 announcement.

Socrates · 01-31-2002, 01:34 AM

Check the Private Message notification too. Mine was off, and I have no idea why it would be.

feldon34 · 01-31-2002, 01:55 AM

Yes, it defaults to "E-mail notification on Private Message?" OFF and "Javascript Popup on Private Message?" ON.

All these things can be changed under My Settings.

Tiny Turtle · 01-31-2002, 09:31 AM

I miss the little Percula Clowns telling me that there are new messages. Went one round through my settings and altered quite a few of 'em, but couldn't find any parameter that would indicate why the Perculas swim elsewhere right now...

Jav400 · 01-31-2002, 10:15 AM

Those should still be there Tiny, I still have them on mine.

The_Thrill · 01-31-2002, 12:43 PM

I am also not getting the number of new posts and topics on the main page of the forum each time I am there.

Jav400 · 01-31-2002, 12:57 PM

Ah ok, the little Perculas that designate new posts I am still seeing, but the numbers in the top right corner I am not. Since this isn't a function I don't normally use, I missed it. Thanks Thrill

Max73 · 01-31-2002, 09:28 PM

Thanks Feldon for upgrading.

I've had two times the same problem : when I connect, the forum doesn't recognize me (I have cookies enabled) and I must enter a password. But the password has changed...

I had to reset it and request a new one via e-mail. I don't know why

I use different message boards using vbulletin, could it be the problem for the identification ?

Jav400 · 02-01-2002, 01:37 AM

One of the differences between this version and the old one that we were using is encripted passwords. There could be some glitches along the way as it changes everything over. Hopefully this won't happen often. Ah, the joys of upgrading software.

feldon34 · 02-01-2002, 01:38 AM

Two times in the last 26 hours?

The passwords went haywire Tuesday afternoon and I restored the Tuesday morning backup last night around 9pm. So your OLD password should work again.

Max73 · 02-01-2002, 10:15 AM

Thanks Feldon and Jav.

Yes it was 2 times. But everything seems to work well now.

In fact I've changed my password some days ago, so if you restored the old one, that could be the cause.

Tiny Turtle · 02-03-2002, 05:40 PM

This is odd, - I still can't get the Percula's to show (went through my settings a second time). Do you think they're angry with me for some reason?

/Calle

Tiny Turtle · 02-04-2002, 05:59 AM

Finally I'm back in business. Today (Next morning compared to the previous post) I found Perkys next to new topics!

Yay!

/Calle

01-30-2002, 11:13 PM	#1
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	* Back in Business! * Good grief what a mess! We've been running vBulletin version 2.0.3 since October and I felt it was time to upgrade to 2.2.2. Right thing: Making a backup of the entire forum before I tried anything! Wrong thing: Trying to update the forum in a different sequence than the instructions at vbulletin.com state. I wanted to update the forum without losing some of the customizations I've made, but that didn't work. Result? We've been out of commission since 9pm last night. Part of the problem? Up until this evening, I did not have direct access to the MySQL database the forum runs on. I've straightened that out with my web host. So now, if we have a database problem, I can stay up all night fixing it, instead of waiting for my host tech support guys to do something. Lesson learned? Follow the steps exactly and I'm going to use a program called Beyond Compare to keep up with the differences between the vanilla 2.2.2 forum and any modifications I make so they can be ripped out, I can upgrade to, say 2.2.3, then restore the modifications. If you have any trouble with the forum, please let me know by e-mail or by posting here!! Some cosmetic characteristics of the forum haven't been restored yet. I've also dispatched an e-mail to all the forum members to let you guys know the forum is back online. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman Last edited by feldon34; 01-30-2002 at 11:48 PM.

01-30-2002, 11:38 PM	#2
hayc59 VoodØØ Child™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 252	Thank You!! we know you bust your rear off for us. so i want to thank you for all you guys do!! ãrê ¥Øu êxpêriêncêÐ 9.11.01 Never Forget God Bless America

01-31-2002, 12:02 AM	#3
Shinsa Registered Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 407	Awesome work Morgan... You're doing GREAT! Bob "When you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." _______________________________________________

01-31-2002, 12:07 AM	#4
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Well its good to be back, I already see several new things available. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

01-31-2002, 01:00 AM	#5
The_Thrill Nittany Lion Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: State College Posts: 49	What if we didnt get the email? Thrill

01-31-2002, 01:16 AM	#6
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn How many things can go wrong today? Ok, way back when I created the forum, I pared down many of the settings in the Registration steps. I put some really good defaults as far as what to display and what not to display, etc. I goofed on one thing. "Allow administrators and moderators to send you e-mails?" was supposed to be set to On by default. It wasn't. I've just fixed the template so that all new users will have this switched On by default. So I'm going to go through tonight and fix this for all the users. After all, we wouldn't want to have someone left out of the 1.1 announcement. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman Last edited by feldon34; 01-31-2002 at 01:27 AM.

01-31-2002, 01:34 AM	#7
Socrates Sage Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 1,529	Check the Private Message notification too. Mine was off, and I have no idea why it would be. Bat rays? We don't need no stinking bat rays!

01-31-2002, 01:55 AM	#8
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Yes, it defaults to "E-mail notification on Private Message?" OFF and "Javascript Popup on Private Message?" ON. All these things can be changed under My Settings. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

01-31-2002, 09:31 AM	#9
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	I miss the little Percula Clowns telling me that there are new messages. Went one round through my settings and altered quite a few of 'em, but couldn't find any parameter that would indicate why the Perculas swim elsewhere right now...

01-31-2002, 10:15 AM	#10
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Those should still be there Tiny, I still have them on mine. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

01-31-2002, 12:43 PM	#11
The_Thrill Nittany Lion Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: State College Posts: 49	I am also not getting the number of new posts and topics on the main page of the forum each time I am there. Thrill

01-31-2002, 12:57 PM	#12
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Ah ok, the little Perculas that designate new posts I am still seeing, but the numbers in the top right corner I am not. Since this isn't a function I don't normally use, I missed it. Thanks Thrill Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

01-31-2002, 09:28 PM	#13
Max73 Registered Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 11	Thanks Feldon for upgrading. I've had two times the same problem : when I connect, the forum doesn't recognize me (I have cookies enabled) and I must enter a password. But the password has changed... I had to reset it and request a new one via e-mail. I don't know why I use different message boards using vbulletin, could it be the problem for the identification ?

02-01-2002, 01:37 AM	#14
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	One of the differences between this version and the old one that we were using is encripted passwords. There could be some glitches along the way as it changes everything over. Hopefully this won't happen often. Ah, the joys of upgrading software. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

02-01-2002, 01:38 AM	#15
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Two times in the last 26 hours? The passwords went haywire Tuesday afternoon and I restored the Tuesday morning backup last night around 9pm. So your OLD password should work again. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

02-01-2002, 10:15 AM	#16
Max73 Registered Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 11	Thanks Feldon and Jav. Yes it was 2 times. But everything seems to work well now. In fact I've changed my password some days ago, so if you restored the old one, that could be the cause.

02-03-2002, 05:40 PM	#17
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	This is odd, - I still can't get the Percula's to show (went through my settings a second time). Do you think they're angry with me for some reason? /Calle

02-04-2002, 05:59 AM	#18
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Finally I'm back in business. Today (Next morning compared to the previous post) I found Perkys next to new topics! Yay! /Calle