Dual (and triple) head support

Jigsaw · 09-05-2002, 05:10 PM

Can anyone tell me if /when we might see dual head support working? I run a matrox G450 and the saver only works on primary monitor. I hope to upgrade sometime soon to the new card with 3 heads, but I'd assume once multihead works it'll work for any (memory permitting)

I'm not worried about widescreen versions, I'm quite happy with two instances of the saver, one on each monitor!

I'd love to have the worlds best screensaver running on my PC, but it needs to be on both monitors!

Cheers,

Gordon

Jim Sachs · 09-05-2002, 10:28 PM

Will Ware of Prolific is working on this, and hopes to have it ready soon.

Jigsaw · 09-06-2002, 04:55 AM

Thanks Jim ( for the reply and the software!)

A thought, what are the chances of producing a time line of enhancements, new fish packs etc? I know you'll always get someone saying you said Q1 2003 and it's the 1st April you're late!! On the otherhand some of these threads started two years ago and have hundreds of comments to wade through, and few know if the situation has changed since the comment was posted.

Keep up the good work!!!

Gordon

feldon34 · 09-06-2002, 05:04 AM

Jim is wise not to put out any kind of schedule.

Things always come up. You can't rush art. {insert other philosophical comments here

}

James · 03-23-2003, 12:56 AM

Just wondring....
can nVidia's nView duplicate the MA2 on to two monitor? or maybe use its desktop extend feature and use MA widescreen so that the fish can swim between both monitor?

does anyone tried this b4?

I suppose MA2 don't support dual monitor currently, so that we need to use video card's utility function to achieve such feature. correct me if I'm wrong

Garmonbozia · 04-13-2003, 04:25 PM

I've been wondering about this myself recently. Has there been any new discussion in another thread? Seems like I saw someone had posted a pic of how he did it somewhere...

feldon34 · 04-13-2003, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by James
Just wondring....
can nVidia's nView duplicate the MA2 on to two monitor?

It would be VERY annoying to have to set your monitor to CLONE every time you want to run the Aquarium.

or maybe use its desktop extend feature and use MA widescreen so that the fish can swim between both monitor?

The results of this are pretty wide fish (the Widescreen Aquarium is more suited for this), but it works. The problem is, most of my programs do not like being on a 2048x768 resolution!

https://www.feldoncentral.com/forump...aldisplay3.jpg

I suppose MA2 don't support dual monitor currently, so that we need to use video card's utility function to achieve such feature. correct me if I'm wrong

No version of the Aquarium supports dual monitors yet. This is a Microsoft nightmare-and-a-half.

Tiny Turtle · 04-14-2003, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by feldon27
It would be VERY annoying to have to set your monitor to CLONE every time you want to run the Aquarium. . .

Perhaps a feasible feature for our resident Frontend Fanatic – Mountain Master? "Dolly mode"
[x] Set nView to Clone
The Q is, Would it be able to reset it upon exit?

Then again, fiddling with nView could be like opening Pandora's box, finding a can full of worms and throw them into a hornet's nest...

/Tiny Allegory

feldon34 · 04-14-2003, 11:52 AM

Your desktop icons would reset and all your programs on monitor #2 would get confused and/or crash every time the Aquarium came up.

Tiny Turtle · 04-14-2003, 12:14 PM

Oh, but of course. My mistake

Mountainmaster · 04-14-2003, 02:54 PM

Your desktop icons would reset and all your programs on monitor #2 would get confused and/or crash every time the Aquarium came up.

Sounds like Pandora's box allright. Nah, I'm not going to fiddle with that. Besides, I don't understand half of what is being said in this thread. Clone? nView came with my driver (4.13.01.3082), but I couldn't find that in its settings...

feldon34 · 04-14-2003, 04:09 PM

MM,

TwinView doesn't come up unless you have TV out or 2 VGA ports.

James · 04-15-2003, 11:40 PM

I just test the Wild SSA on fr's dual head,
without having any troible nView setting changes,
the SSA launchs it self across the two screens

I guess if there's a version which has the background that supports the width of 2048,
the result will be very good....
so just release a version has 2048W background and there's no need to tweak the dual head support,
the nView does it for u automatically

PS. my fr is using LCD monitor, shoot in a dark room

feldon34 · 04-15-2003, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by James
I just test the Wild SSA on fr's dual head,
without having any troible nView setting changes,
the SSA launchs it self across the two screens

Define "not having trouble".

If you consider operating Windows with a 2048x768 resolution to be "normal", the spanning doesn't work well with all applications. and full-screen DOS programs die or bring down the machine.

so just release a version has 2048W background

You make 2 months of extra effort (which would go in the trash as soon as the 3D version is done anyway) sound so easy...

kona001 · 04-18-2003, 01:12 AM

I did the same thing with the nview settings. it works without a problem. When you move the mouse, it goes back to a normal dual desktop.

kona001 · 04-18-2003, 01:15 AM

Having the fish swim between two monitors makes the effect even more realistic.

Socrates · 04-18-2003, 12:54 PM

Jame's picture is cool.

Now I am going to have to drag an extra monitor downstairs and play around.

feldon34 · 04-18-2003, 01:13 PM

Again, it precludes you from using any full-screen DOS apps and a few other apps won't work properly either. 2048x768 confuses a lot of programs.

BigScreen · 04-18-2003, 07:09 PM

Matrox's drivers actually take into account that some programs really want to center their dialogs on the screen, and if you have your desktop stretched across two monitors, the dialog can land right in the middle.

There is a setting in PowerDesk that lets you specify where you want to see centered dialogs (centered on first monitor). For those with Matrox cards that want to try this, make sure to check those settings out.

albert · 04-21-2003, 07:45 AM

What is the status of dual head, wide screen support. I read this thread but confused as to the status due to the dates people posted? Is it available today in the product or only in a beta version? Will it work in dual head mode at a high resolution such as 3200 x 1200 (i.e. 2 monitors set at 1600x1200). Thanks!

09-05-2002, 05:10 PM	#1
Jigsaw Registered Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: UK Posts: 2	Dual (and triple) head support Can anyone tell me if /when we might see dual head support working? I run a matrox G450 and the saver only works on primary monitor. I hope to upgrade sometime soon to the new card with 3 heads, but I'd assume once multihead works it'll work for any (memory permitting) I'm not worried about widescreen versions, I'm quite happy with two instances of the saver, one on each monitor! I'd love to have the worlds best screensaver running on my PC, but it needs to be on both monitors! Cheers, Gordon Time flies like the wind but fruit flies like bananas

09-06-2002, 04:55 AM	#3
Jigsaw Registered Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: UK Posts: 2	Thanks Jim ( for the reply and the software!) A thought, what are the chances of producing a time line of enhancements, new fish packs etc? I know you'll always get someone saying you said Q1 2003 and it's the 1st April you're late!! On the otherhand some of these threads started two years ago and have hundreds of comments to wade through, and few know if the situation has changed since the comment was posted. Keep up the good work!!! Gordon Time flies like the wind but fruit flies like bananas

09-06-2002, 05:04 AM	#4
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Jim is wise not to put out any kind of schedule. Things always come up. You can't rush art. {insert other philosophical comments here } "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-23-2003, 12:56 AM	#5
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Just wondring.... can nVidia's nView duplicate the MA2 on to two monitor? or maybe use its desktop extend feature and use MA widescreen so that the fish can swim between both monitor? does anyone tried this b4? I suppose MA2 don't support dual monitor currently, so that we need to use video card's utility function to achieve such feature. correct me if I'm wrong James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

04-13-2003, 06:06 PM	#7
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Originally posted by James Just wondring.... can nVidia's nView duplicate the MA2 on to two monitor? It would be VERY annoying to have to set your monitor to CLONE every time you want to run the Aquarium. or maybe use its desktop extend feature and use MA widescreen so that the fish can swim between both monitor? The results of this are pretty wide fish (the Widescreen Aquarium is more suited for this), but it works. The problem is, most of my programs do not like being on a 2048x768 resolution! https://www.feldoncentral.com/forump...aldisplay3.jpg I suppose MA2 don't support dual monitor currently, so that we need to use video card's utility function to achieve such feature. correct me if I'm wrong No version of the Aquarium supports dual monitors yet. This is a Microsoft nightmare-and-a-half. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

09-05-2002, 10:28 PM	#2
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,816	Will Ware of Prolific is working on this, and hopes to have it ready soon. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-13-2003, 04:25 PM	#6
Garmonbozia Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: western hemisphere Posts: 12	I've been wondering about this myself recently. Has there been any new discussion in another thread? Seems like I saw someone had posted a pic of how he did it somewhere...

04-14-2003, 01:26 AM	#8
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Originally posted by feldon27 It would be VERY annoying to have to set your monitor to CLONE every time you want to run the Aquarium. . . Perhaps a feasible feature for our resident Frontend Fanatic – Mountain Master? "Dolly mode" [x] Set nView to Clone The Q is, Would it be able to reset it upon exit? Then again, fiddling with nView could be like opening Pandora's box, finding a can full of worms and throw them into a hornet's nest... /Tiny Allegory

04-14-2003, 11:52 AM	#9
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Your desktop icons would reset and all your programs on monitor #2 would get confused and/or crash every time the Aquarium came up. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-14-2003, 12:14 PM	#10
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Oh, but of course. My mistake Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

04-14-2003, 04:09 PM	#12
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	MM, TwinView doesn't come up unless you have TV out or 2 VGA ports. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-15-2003, 11:59 PM	#14
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Originally posted by James I just test the Wild SSA on fr's dual head, without having any troible nView setting changes, the SSA launchs it self across the two screens Define "not having trouble". If you consider operating Windows with a 2048x768 resolution to be "normal", the spanning doesn't work well with all applications. and full-screen DOS programs die or bring down the machine. so just release a version has 2048W background You make 2 months of extra effort (which would go in the trash as soon as the 3D version is done anyway) sound so easy... "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-18-2003, 01:12 AM	#15
kona001 New Husband and new Aquarium Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 318	I did the same thing with the nview settings. it works without a problem. When you move the mouse, it goes back to a normal dual desktop.

04-18-2003, 01:15 AM	#16
kona001 New Husband and new Aquarium Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 318	Having the fish swim between two monitors makes the effect even more realistic. "We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail"-W2

04-18-2003, 12:54 PM	#17
Socrates Sage Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 1,529	Jame's picture is cool. Now I am going to have to drag an extra monitor downstairs and play around. Bat rays? We don't need no stinking bat rays!

04-18-2003, 01:13 PM	#18
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Again, it precludes you from using any full-screen DOS apps and a few other apps won't work properly either. 2048x768 confuses a lot of programs. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-18-2003, 07:09 PM	#19
BigScreen Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 59	Matrox's drivers actually take into account that some programs really want to center their dialogs on the screen, and if you have your desktop stretched across two monitors, the dialog can land right in the middle. There is a setting in PowerDesk that lets you specify where you want to see centered dialogs (centered on first monitor). For those with Matrox cards that want to try this, make sure to check those settings out. Scott J. Publisher of The BigScreen Cinema Guide

04-21-2003, 07:45 AM	#20
albert Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 12	What is the status of dual head, wide screen support. I read this thread but confused as to the status due to the dates people posted? Is it available today in the product or only in a beta version? Will it work in dual head mode at a high resolution such as 3200 x 1200 (i.e. 2 monitors set at 1600x1200). Thanks!