Marine Aquarium 2.0

NotNoisy · 03-21-2003, 11:39 AM

I was so lucky to get a preview of both Marine Aquarium Time and Marine Aquarium 2.0.

I was very happy to see that MAT worked perfectly on my system, I never was able to run the Marine Aquarium without hanging or crashing my system. I used to have a NVidia GeForce3 card, which together with XP was known to be a difficult combination.

I threw out the NVidia and installed a Matrox Parhelia, and never had a more stable system! (It wasn't just the screensaver that caused my system to crash..) I have had the pleasure of enjoying MAT for over a month now, which I'm very happy for!

However, the Marine Aquarium is still causing problems on my system. It doesn't hang, but when logging on I have no wallpaper. I go to properties for the screen and seethat the wallpaper is indeed selected, so all I have to do is make a change, change it back and click apply - the wallpaper is then back again.

My MB is a VIA VP6
Dual PIII 850 MHZ
RAM 1024
Matrox Parhelia 128MB
And Win XP servicepack1

It's no big deal really, I enjoy the MAT immensly, and that's good enough for me

schnauzermama · 04-18-2003, 11:13 PM

I have the same problem but the Marine Aquarium 2.0 will not do anything but sit minimized in my tray. I upgraded to the newest version of Direct X as tech support told me but no change at all. I had to uninstall it and reinstall 1.1.

I have a Gateway Pentium 4 with a ATI_Radeon 128 Video Card and 1024 of RAM.

feldon34 · 04-19-2003, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by NotNoisy
I never was able to run the Marine Aquarium without hanging or crashing my system. I used to have a NVidia GeForce3 card, which together with XP was known to be a difficult combination.

It's not known to be a difficult combination on this forum.

I'd be curious to know what drivers you were running. The ones that come with Windows XP are atrocious.

However, the Marine Aquarium is still causing problems on my system. It doesn't hang, but when logging on I have no wallpaper. I go to properties for the screen and seethat the wallpaper is indeed selected, so all I have to do is make a change, change it back and click apply - the wallpaper is then back again.

XP seems shockingly vulnerable to its settings being changed by DirectX applications. We've seen all kinds of wierdness here with no logical explanation. But this is not an "out". If the bug can be fixed, it will be!

My MB is a VIA VP6

Have you downloaded the latest VIA 4-in-1 drivers from:
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2

?

NotNoisy · 04-19-2003, 01:54 AM

It's not known to be a difficult combination on this forum.

I was under the impression I wasn't the only one having trouble with the GeForce and XP...

https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...0&pagenumber=1

Have you downloaded the latest VIA 4-in-1 drivers

Yes

The MAT is still running without any problems at all

Edgar · 04-19-2003, 01:59 AM

If MAT is running, then make sure you have the most recent MA2. They are the same engine.

feldon34 · 04-19-2003, 02:53 AM

Yes, re-download MA2 from SereneScreen.com. It got updated to build 974 2-3 days ago.

NotNoisy · 04-19-2003, 08:01 AM

I downloaded the latest build, and have had no problems with it at all

It doesn't hang the computer, and doesn't reset my desktop. great! Looks like I can use both of them

skypx · 04-19-2003, 10:59 AM

I a not sure if this is a bug, but it is strange. I installed the latest version of MA2 (N321.2.0.5154) and the fps seems to be locked at 142. I usally get 270 - 280 at 1280 x 1024.

feldon34 · 04-19-2003, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by skypx
I a not sure if this is a bug, but it is strange. I installed the latest version of MA2 (N321.2.0.5154) and the fps seems to be locked at 142. I usally get 270 - 280 at 1280 x 1024.

Considering your monitor is probably only displaying 60 of those unless you have upped the DirectX refresh rate, I wouldn't worry too much.

skypx · 04-19-2003, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by feldon27
Considering your monitor is probably only displaying 60 of those unless you have upped the DirectX refresh rate, I wouldn't worry too much.

I'm not worried about it, just thought it might be bug in the new version.

Mountainmaster · 04-19-2003, 06:28 PM

Huh? They put up version N321.2.0.5154? Why not the N414.2.0.5590 version we have been beta-testing lately, wasn't that supposed to be the release candidate?

feldon34 · 04-19-2003, 07:58 PM

I just checked it myself (by downloading and installing) and the version of MA2 at SereneScreen.com for the last 2 days has been 5590, which is, in my opinion, an awesome stable build.

skypx,
If you find an out-of-date link somewhere, please let us know.

skypx · 04-19-2003, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by feldon27
I just checked it myself (by downloading and installing) and the version of MA2 at SereneScreen.com for the last 2 days has been 5590, which is, in my opinion, an awesome stable build.

skypx,
If you find an out-of-date link somewhere, please let us know.

I will download it again and report back.

skypx · 04-19-2003, 08:54 PM

I have the new version, but the fps still seems to be limited.

Edgar · 04-19-2003, 09:07 PM

On Stats, it shows VSyncCLAMPED.If you hit CTRL-V, it will switch to VSyncOFF. This will increased the framerate. As long as you know the consequence that you may see tearing on update. To save this new settings, hit the SPACEBAR and click on OK.

feldon34 · 04-19-2003, 09:11 PM

And for anyone wondering, turning off VSync might improve animation on some systems running MAT and MA2. Even with it on (as it is by default on 95% of computers), you can get excellent framerates and there is no risk of "tearing" or the monitor displaying ripped/half-frames. It's hard to explain but think of when you are watching a computer monitor in the background on a TV show, how you see a "rip" in the animation there.

skypx · 04-19-2003, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by Edgar
On Stats, it shows VSyncCLAMPED.If you hit CTRL-V, it will switch to VSyncOFF. This will increased the framerate. As long as you know the consequence that you may see tearing on update. To save this new settings, hit the SPACEBAR and click on OK.

I still get the same fps.

SailingJim · 04-19-2003, 11:57 PM

First off, I love this program

This is the problem I am having.

I uninstalled V1.1 and Installed V2.0 after I was sent my keycode.

Problems

1) On WinXP Pro the background goes away whenever I log back onto my system.

2) On winXp Pro I am unable to select SereneScreen 2 as my default screne saver.

WinXP Pro has been updated with all the current updates.

The funny thing about this is that I have a laptop with WinXP at home and neither of these problems occure.

Any ideas anyone?

feldon34 · 04-20-2003, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by SailingJim
First off, I love this program

This is the problem I am having.

I uninstalled V1.1 and Installed V2.0 after I was sent my keycode.

Problems

1) On WinXP Pro the background goes away whenever I log back onto my system.

This is being widely reported. Looking into it.

2) On winXp Pro I am unable to select SereneScreen 2 as my default screne saver.

Please go into C:\Windows\System32\ and rename
Marine Aquarium 2.scr
to
MarineAquarium2.scr (no spaces)

03-21-2003, 11:39 AM	#1
NotNoisy Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 17	Marine Aquarium 2.0 I was so lucky to get a preview of both Marine Aquarium Time and Marine Aquarium 2.0. I was very happy to see that MAT worked perfectly on my system, I never was able to run the Marine Aquarium without hanging or crashing my system. I used to have a NVidia GeForce3 card, which together with XP was known to be a difficult combination. I threw out the NVidia and installed a Matrox Parhelia, and never had a more stable system! (It wasn't just the screensaver that caused my system to crash..) I have had the pleasure of enjoying MAT for over a month now, which I'm very happy for! However, the Marine Aquarium is still causing problems on my system. It doesn't hang, but when logging on I have no wallpaper. I go to properties for the screen and seethat the wallpaper is indeed selected, so all I have to do is make a change, change it back and click apply - the wallpaper is then back again. My MB is a VIA VP6 Dual PIII 850 MHZ RAM 1024 Matrox Parhelia 128MB And Win XP servicepack1 It's no big deal really, I enjoy the MAT immensly, and that's good enough for me

04-18-2003, 11:13 PM	#2
schnauzermama Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 1	I have the same problem but the Marine Aquarium 2.0 will not do anything but sit minimized in my tray. I upgraded to the newest version of Direct X as tech support told me but no change at all. I had to uninstall it and reinstall 1.1. I have a Gateway Pentium 4 with a ATI_Radeon 128 Video Card and 1024 of RAM. http://www.tktucker.net/nir/ Nurses in Recovery http://www.tktucker.net/ Tina's Place http://www.minschnauzer.com/ Miniature Schnauzer Home Page

04-19-2003, 01:31 AM	#3
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Re: Marine Aquarium 2.0 Originally posted by NotNoisy I never was able to run the Marine Aquarium without hanging or crashing my system. I used to have a NVidia GeForce3 card, which together with XP was known to be a difficult combination. It's not known to be a difficult combination on this forum. I'd be curious to know what drivers you were running. The ones that come with Windows XP are atrocious. However, the Marine Aquarium is still causing problems on my system. It doesn't hang, but when logging on I have no wallpaper. I go to properties for the screen and seethat the wallpaper is indeed selected, so all I have to do is make a change, change it back and click apply - the wallpaper is then back again. XP seems shockingly vulnerable to its settings being changed by DirectX applications. We've seen all kinds of wierdness here with no logical explanation. But this is not an "out". If the bug can be fixed, it will be! My MB is a VIA VP6 Have you downloaded the latest VIA 4-in-1 drivers from: http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2 ? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-19-2003, 02:53 AM	#6
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Yes, re-download MA2 from SereneScreen.com. It got updated to build 974 2-3 days ago. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-19-2003, 01:26 PM	#9
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Originally posted by skypx I a not sure if this is a bug, but it is strange. I installed the latest version of MA2 (N321.2.0.5154) and the fps seems to be locked at 142. I usally get 270 - 280 at 1280 x 1024. Considering your monitor is probably only displaying 60 of those unless you have upped the DirectX refresh rate, I wouldn't worry too much. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-19-2003, 01:54 AM	#4
NotNoisy Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 17	It's not known to be a difficult combination on this forum. I was under the impression I wasn't the only one having trouble with the GeForce and XP... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...0&pagenumber=1 Have you downloaded the latest VIA 4-in-1 drivers Yes The MAT is still running without any problems at all

04-19-2003, 01:59 AM	#5
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	If MAT is running, then make sure you have the most recent MA2. They are the same engine.

04-19-2003, 08:01 AM	#7
NotNoisy Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 17	I downloaded the latest build, and have had no problems with it at all It doesn't hang the computer, and doesn't reset my desktop. great! Looks like I can use both of them

04-19-2003, 10:59 AM	#8
skypx Dual Xeon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Grovetown, GA Posts: 93	I a not sure if this is a bug, but it is strange. I installed the latest version of MA2 (N321.2.0.5154) and the fps seems to be locked at 142. I usally get 270 - 280 at 1280 x 1024.

04-19-2003, 01:48 PM	#10
skypx Dual Xeon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Grovetown, GA Posts: 93	Originally posted by feldon27 Considering your monitor is probably only displaying 60 of those unless you have upped the DirectX refresh rate, I wouldn't worry too much. I'm not worried about it, just thought it might be bug in the new version.

04-19-2003, 07:58 PM	#12
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	I just checked it myself (by downloading and installing) and the version of MA2 at SereneScreen.com for the last 2 days has been 5590, which is, in my opinion, an awesome stable build. skypx, If you find an out-of-date link somewhere, please let us know. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-19-2003, 08:42 PM	#13
skypx Dual Xeon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Grovetown, GA Posts: 93	Originally posted by feldon27 I just checked it myself (by downloading and installing) and the version of MA2 at SereneScreen.com for the last 2 days has been 5590, which is, in my opinion, an awesome stable build. skypx, If you find an out-of-date link somewhere, please let us know. I will download it again and report back.

04-19-2003, 08:54 PM	#14
skypx Dual Xeon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Grovetown, GA Posts: 93	I have the new version, but the fps still seems to be limited.

04-19-2003, 09:07 PM	#15
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	On Stats, it shows VSyncCLAMPED.If you hit CTRL-V, it will switch to VSyncOFF. This will increased the framerate. As long as you know the consequence that you may see tearing on update. To save this new settings, hit the SPACEBAR and click on OK.

04-19-2003, 09:11 PM	#16
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	And for anyone wondering, turning off VSync might improve animation on some systems running MAT and MA2. Even with it on (as it is by default on 95% of computers), you can get excellent framerates and there is no risk of "tearing" or the monitor displaying ripped/half-frames. It's hard to explain but think of when you are watching a computer monitor in the background on a TV show, how you see a "rip" in the animation there. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

04-19-2003, 09:20 PM	#17
skypx Dual Xeon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Grovetown, GA Posts: 93	Originally posted by Edgar On Stats, it shows VSyncCLAMPED.If you hit CTRL-V, it will switch to VSyncOFF. This will increased the framerate. As long as you know the consequence that you may see tearing on update. To save this new settings, hit the SPACEBAR and click on OK. I still get the same fps.

04-19-2003, 11:57 PM	#18
SailingJim Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aiea Hi Posts: 1	SereneScrene Problems First off, I love this program This is the problem I am having. I uninstalled V1.1 and Installed V2.0 after I was sent my keycode. Problems 1) On WinXP Pro the background goes away whenever I log back onto my system. 2) On winXp Pro I am unable to select SereneScreen 2 as my default screne saver. WinXP Pro has been updated with all the current updates. The funny thing about this is that I have a laptop with WinXP at home and neither of these problems occure. Any ideas anyone?

04-20-2003, 12:45 AM	#19
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,947	Re: SereneScrene Problems Originally posted by SailingJim First off, I love this program This is the problem I am having. I uninstalled V1.1 and Installed V2.0 after I was sent my keycode. Problems 1) On WinXP Pro the background goes away whenever I log back onto my system. This is being widely reported. Looking into it. 2) On winXp Pro I am unable to select SereneScreen 2 as my default screne saver. Please go into C:\Windows\System32\ and rename Marine Aquarium 2.scr to MarineAquarium2.scr (no spaces) "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman