Tiny Turtle got it right. That was exactly what I was doing in my original reply.
Now, I will respond to your latest posts, and this will be my last post here. As I said, I've had it, and I'm outta here.
I suggested you use the search engine HERE and see what success or failure people have had with nVidia's latest drivers with the Aquarium and other apps on THIS forum.
Yes, I fully understood that from the beginning. (Why would you think otherwise?) And I simply invited you to look beyond the limited scope of this forum at what others everywhere else on the Internet are saying.
I was very careful not to personally attack you, but instead express my frustration at nVidia over their buggy drivers (and yes, I know ATI are worse). However, you have crossed that line.
On the contrary, you have always been adept at issuing little flank attacks, needling people -- and then subsequently denying that you have done this, trying to couch your language in the guise of "civility," and then issuing warnings of deletion of either threads or user accounts to those who take offense to you. I could rattle off a list just in THIS particular thread, but suffice it to say that even just your "Hey, if you think you have all the answers, then how about solving jojobear's problem" comment is proof enough. (Translation: "You DON'T have all the answers, so either put up or shut up, and stop challenging my statements.") For one thing, I never claimed to have all the answers. Furthermore, I rarely get this ticked off, and I would not have replied to your post in the manner that I did if you had actually BEEN "very careful not to personally attack" me.
If you feel the need to reply further to this topic, then please be constructive.
Heh.
[Translation: "You are being destructive (but of course, I myself am not)."]
This, coming from someone that posts destructive, smartass comments and then thinks HE is being constructive by doing so. I'll leave it up to you to decide whether this latest post of mine is "constructive" or not. Bottom line is you pissed me off, so I'm giving you the "what for." If you don't like that, or don't think it's "constructive" enough, then tough. Suck it up.
Start a poll or topic asking what drivers and cards people have.
Start e-mailing those benchmark websites and ask them what kind of stability they are experiencing with the Aquarium.
Get 20 people to e-mail me that they've had no problems with X driver version on Y video card running the Aquarium, Quake, and other apps.
Why 20? Because I've got twice that many telling me that the newer drivers DON'T work.
In case you didn't quite get what Morgan is REALLY trying to say here, then here is the translation: "OK, smarty, if you think you're right, then here is a challenge for you [speaking of snide personal challenges, this is it folks]: I challenge you to come up with 20 people that have had no problems with the new drivers. 'Cause I bet you can't, or you won't take the time to do it. And therefore I win. I challenge you to ask all of these websites you go to frequently and ask them what kind of stability they are experiencing, because I don't believe your story and I bet you won't get any good responses from these websites either, and therefore I win. I challenge you to start a poll here asking what drivers people use, because as I've said before, there have been HUNDREDS of posts here complaining about the drivers, so of course I expect the members of this forum to respond to the poll in my favor, and therefore I win. You think you're so smart and you know what you're talking about? OK, smarty, then let's see if you can come up with 20 people that can corroborate your findings. If you can't do that, then you might as well shut up, because I win."
Please be aware that flames and personal attacks are not welcome on this forum. I'd hate to see a long-time member of the forum be asked to leave. If you have a problem with me personally, please take it up with my e-mail box.
This is a public thread, and the animosity was started by YOU, not me. It is only fair that I respond to you here in this public forum, then, as well as debate the issue that I had originally debated. (And that is ALL I was doing in the first place -- debating your choice of driver and your statement that the newer nVIdia drivers ALWAYS cause problems. I was debating an issue -- not attacking YOU.) It is only appropriate that I respond to you here, where the comments were first made, since YOU instigated them in PUBLIC in the first place. Like you say, personal attacks are not welcome in this forum. Yep, good advice to follow -- even for forum owners and administrators, ya know?
But as I said, I'm outta here anyway. Last post from me. Goodbye. Go ahead and delete my account. I've had it.
. I think, and I may be wrong, but in your 2nd post you used the word "challenge", which I frown upon, and to me, your first post seemed to be of this nature.
You're right. It WAS a challenge. A challenge of a certain policy, of an IDEA, of a STATEMENT that was made -- NOT a challenge of a person! NOT a personal attack. I was simply challenging (a) the statement that updating to the latest nVidia driver is "always" going to cause problems, and (b) that 6.47 would be the best driver to install under XP. In that context, the word "challenge" is NOT something to be frowned upon. It is simply healthy debate, period.
There is no room for personal attacks, or posts of that nature. Repeated occurences from people who disrupt the forum will be enforced from our end.
I completely agree. There is no room for personal attacks here -- so go tell that to Feldon, because this is exactly why I responded to him in the manner I did. I don't like being attacked. I don't like smartass comments and veiled put-downs. And when they're directed to me, and ESPECIALLY when they're directed to me BY THE FORUM OWNER, I'm not going to just sit here and take it. I thought my original post was absolutely reasonable -- simply a contrary opinion and statement saying that I don't think that blanket statements like the one Morgan made are true.
Go ahead and try to tell me that it is all my fault, that I'm the one who should be punished here, and that I'm now being threatened with account deletion for my "offenses." Go ahead and try it. I'm not buying it.
In short, clean up your own house first, then maybe, just maybe, I'll listen to you.
Until then, Adios.