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Sully 04-14-2002 11:14 AM

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How about a Highfin Chinese Banded Shark and a Zebra Pleco.

Sully 04-14-2002 11:16 AM

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Sorry couldn't figure out how to attach two pictures. Here is the Chinese Highfin Banded Shark.

Tiny Turtle 04-14-2002 02:37 PM

A loud "Yes!" on that Pleco. A baby one just like the one in the picture. Those Highfins are cool too. Used to dream about getting one or two of those for my (ex-)girlfriend's tank, but they're a bit too high on maintenance for that...

P.S.
Attaching two pictures is (unfortunately) not possible. You'll have to link to pics for it to work.

drfish 04-14-2002 10:16 PM

I love the idea of a Figure Eight puffer! I always wanted one but he just wouldn't have fit in well with any of my other tanks and I couldn't afford to buy another one at the time. The animation would be very cool too, it would really make him stick out! I bet he'd become a favorite.

And I want an Oscar too, the fact that my last comment was in the form of a joke doesn't mean I don't want the fish included.

James 04-15-2002 12:14 AM

I also like the Figure 8 Puffer, I had 6 of them 8 years ago..
they r just so cute.....but they r also aggressive.....coz I find my othe 4 Goldfish's beautiful tail been bite off so ugly.....and I did witness my puffers were chasing those poor goldfishes...:(
resulting I have to separating them from another tank...

http://www.aquariumfish.net/images_0...r_figure_8.jpg

and Brazilian Freshwater Puffer is nice too
http://www.aquariumfish.net/images_0...ilian_w360.jpg

here's a video of a puffer fish
http://www.baileys-fish.com/videos/puffer_fwd_01.avi

I also have some Kuhli Loach, they r very unique and looks very like a "water snake"

http://www.loaches.com/kuhli_group.jpg
http://www.myfish.org/mafba/images/0062.jpg
http://home.online.no/~alftt/images/Kuhlii.jpg

I suggest for Glass Fish (Chanda ranga.)and Glass Catfish
two videos of Glass fish and Glass Catfish
http://www.baileys-fish.com/videos/glass_fish_01.avi

http://www.baileys-fish.com/videos/glass_catfish_01.avi

The final one is Elephant Nose Fish...this fish has a very long nose
they r also very cute and very good to live with other tank members
http://hobbes.jct.ac.il/images/pil.jpg

a pic and a video of elephant nose fish
http://images.google.co.nz/images?q=...phant_nose.jpg
http://www.baileys-fish.com/videos/elephant_nose_01.avi

I also like some critters such as shrimp or snail or clam
http://www.aquariumfish.net/images_0...water_w180.jpg

drfish 04-15-2002 09:24 AM

Kuhlies would be great, but I'm hoping for a cory cat over them. I like the idea of glass cats too, the transparency would be great. Little freshwater ghost shrimp or those crabs would be niffty too, but you're talking about a lot of work when you start bringing up what would really be speciality creatures.

Sounds like Jim is looking at the freshwater tank as an "easy" inbetween before his other serene screens, I'm not sure he's planning on putting the kind of work in this that realistic movement of crabs, shrimp, a puffer, and corydoras catfish would require. Of course he's going to be doing a lot of that when the creature packs for the saltwater come out. I guess I just don't know what to expect, is he going to take this one as seriously as the others we've known about for awhile?

peter piscis 04-15-2002 09:56 PM

3D plants?
 
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At first I was disappointed that the freshwater aquarium might slow the 3D marine background. But then it occurred to me that freshwater plants, a necessary part of this new aquarium, would have to sway in the water to be realistic. The best part though, is that unlike most features of a marine background, freshwater plants are fairly simple in shape and highly repetitive from one stem to the next. So maybe we and Jim get the best of both worlds - 3D elements in the background, and they are faster and easier to create and model?!

IXNAY 04-17-2002 12:00 PM

Hey James I had the Kuhli Loach in my Aquarium too. Really cool fishs, but they hide most the time. I had these ones too: http://www.aquascape.co.uk/adolfoi.jpg

Would Like to see both, some betas and something like this one:
http://www.aquascape.co.uk/Whiptail.jpg

IXNAY 04-17-2002 12:06 PM

Uhm sorry for posting again but I just got to this site and I would like to see many of the fishs seen here, they are really standart ones for a freshwater aquarium: http://www.aquascape.co.uk/wholesal.html

And please add this fish here:
http://www.aquascape.co.uk/assorted3.jpg
And please give them different skins if that's possible, that would be sooo coool :D Don't know his english name in german it's "Guppy" wich is a polish swearword too :D

Yellow Tang 04-18-2002 04:07 AM

Yes these guys are mandatory for the aquarium! At least the males, females are... uhmm ... ugly?
Scientific Name: Poecilia reticulata

IXNAY 04-18-2002 05:50 AM

Yes you're right the males are great and the females a bit odd. I don't know if both are needed, let Jim choose...

Tiny Turtle 04-18-2002 06:53 AM

Ixnay, needed for what? I know one thing that requires both... ;)

My personal opiníon is that both males and females are needed eventhough guppy's ain't my favorite.

Just thought of something: Guess there'll be a lot more schooling in the freshwater tank than the marine one. Sure hope that doesn't cause too much trouble for Jim...

IXNAY 04-18-2002 12:30 PM

Needed for enjoying the aquarium :)
These in the pic don't look very good but there are so many different ones, I had one that looked like a tiger, really cool. Different skins would be really good here.

Lza 04-18-2002 02:02 PM

My wishes for the freshwater aquarium:

- Kois (my favorites)
http://www.ultrateck.net/petfood/koi.jpg


- a Piranha ( a peacefully of course - I know it's a serene tank)

- 3D background also for the fresh water tank (perhaps later)

Digital Lungfish 04-19-2002 12:35 AM

I agree, a Koi or two would be a nice addition. I had actually posted a message over in the salt forum about Koi not too long ago, but it had to do with another aquarium (not one of Jim's).

https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...3099#post13099

- DL

James 04-19-2002 01:27 AM

Koi is a good idea but not very realistic to put in a tank...
they r often rather big compare to other freshwater fishes....
they usually keep in ponds more then tanks....
may be baby-koi is a nce idea? :)

IXNAY 04-19-2002 06:27 AM

Hmmm I don't like them, but aren't Kois goldfishes? Jim said there will be no goldfishes in the tank...and that's good I think.

Hey maybe a new sereneproject: a pond :D we have one in our garden and it's fun to look in it seeing all this fishes, waterinsects, frogs and other reptiles...

Lza 04-19-2002 06:52 AM

Kois are carps and not goldfishes!
Yep, kois usually keep in ponds more then tanks but they can also be kept in aquarium.

http://www.ten6.com/is/cgi-bin/nishi...ssages/60.html

http://www.koi-n-me.cityslide.com/co...nts.cfm/412353

Jim Sachs 04-19-2002 09:22 AM

No Koi, this will be a freshwater tropical tank.

Digital Lungfish 04-20-2002 12:30 AM

No Koi Jim? Oh well, things could be worse, but I certainly understand.

I used to keep some Koi in the pond in my back yard and I also kept a single young Koi about 6 inches long inside of one of my freshwater tropical tanks in the house. Keeping Koi in aquariums is very common, but as they grow you should be prepared to transfer them to a pond if you own one or you'll be forced to sell them. Either that or you can buy a larger aquarium. I had to do that for my African Lungfish. Over the years he grew quite large (3 1/2 feet), so I had to keep buying larger tanks to accommodate him.

- DL

emathieu 04-20-2002 10:59 AM

Banded Leporinus
 
I know not many people are familiar with these, but I really think that this is one of the bst freshwater fish I've ever had... The are generally very gentile/docile (although can be rather aggressive when attacked), and only eat plant materials (but they will eat vegetable flakes if you start them on it when they are young).

I really didn't know very much about this fish when I got my first one (about 10 years ago), and I was very surprised when it grew from about 2" to over 12"! These are awesome looking fish, and I think they would make a great addition to the freshwater screen saver!

http://store1.yimg.com/I/fish2u_1674_21249321

Emathieu.

CephaloP 04-20-2002 02:21 PM

We had a tank of about 10 or 12 of these in the pet store I once worked at, with a few Headstanders and Anostomus to boot. Anyway, we manage to train the whole lot to eat only meat, and they were more vicious than any piranha I ever saw. We'd drop the biggest feeder goldfish we could get (or even an ornamental gold if no one was looking) and every fish in the tank would be gnawing furiously on it's own little corner of it, with half a second. The gold would be a skeleton in under a minute sometimes. Which is why I laugh when I see books that say, "community fish, eats only plants." :)

I doubt it would work this way in Jim's Aquarium though.

Digital Lungfish 04-21-2002 03:09 AM

Jim's Avatar
 
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?!?!?!?

Hey Jim,

What happened to your avatar image? I hope not to offend you or anything, but you look noticably older now. Is this a more up to date self portrate?

Lza 04-21-2002 12:28 PM

Why no Koi? Perhaps on another screensaver like a pond sometime?

Some other wishes:

especially the first 4 of this list

- Green Terror
http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis...s/finz1832.jpg

- Apisto
http://www.thehiddenreef.com/Picture..._apisto_lg.jpg

- Blue Ram
http://www.thehiddenreef.com/Picture...lue_ram_lg.jpg

- Convict Cichlid
http://www.hippocampus-bildarchiv.de...ka/s05924.html

- Plecostomus
http://www.trilbytropicals.com/image...ostomus_11.jpg
http://www.seremban.net/fishcorner/images/Pleco.jpg
and Golden Nugget Pleco
http://www.fishsupply.com/images/Products/HPG00.JPG

- Clown Loach
http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis...s/finz3320.jpg

- Firemouth
http://www.mindspring.com/~joeja/fis...0010427_01.JPG

- Corydoras
http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis...s/finz1153.jpg

and many more
http://www.fish-tradingcards.com/fis..._galleries.htm
http://www.fishsupply.com/cgi-bin/co....cgi?item_no=H
http://www.thehiddenreef.com/webpage...idden_reef.htm


And please no treasure chest and other toys - it's realistic for an aquarium but I dislike it like mermaids and burping fishes. It should be a natural environment.

Tiny Turtle 04-21-2002 01:32 PM

Lza, That Convict Tang might not like swimming in the fresh water tank given that it's a marine species...

Jim Sachs 04-21-2002 01:36 PM

Re: Jim's Avatar
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Digital Lungfish
?!?!?!?

You look noticably older now. Is this a more up to date self portrate?

Yes, I took the pic yesterday. Hey, gimme a break -- I'm in my mid 50s :)

Jim Sachs 04-21-2002 01:44 PM

LZA -

The freshwater tank will have a treasure chest - in fact that's what I'm working on at this moment. Thousands of people have asked for it, and the freshwater tank is a more suitable place for it than the reef tank. You will be able to turn it off, though.

hpman77 04-21-2002 02:59 PM

Hey Jim, you're old if you feel old, and I don't think you're feeling old.... you're more active than most of us!

Is there any chance to see guppies swimming in the freshwater tank?

hpman77 04-21-2002 03:08 PM

A site with guppies pics, just in case you never saw one... or many :) they have a nice variety

http://www.world-guppy.de/seiten/galerie.htm

Jim Sachs 04-21-2002 03:15 PM

Guppies are not usually kept with other types of fish, but I've always liked them and am looking into it. Goldfish and Koi are cold-water fish, and would roast in this tropical tank.

Lza 04-21-2002 03:16 PM

Tiny Turtle, Yep. I jumbled the links. I changed it.

Jim Sachs, I hope a complete turn off so the treasure chest completely disappears from the tank and not only stop moving.

Jim Sachs 04-21-2002 04:03 PM

Yes, that's exactly what it will do.

James 04-21-2002 04:21 PM

Yesterday I went to a shopping center and bump into a pet shop, then saw some cool freshwater fishes.....but the thing attract most of my eyes is Axolotl!!
I then had a suggestion for this Freshwater Aquarium, since there are only fish-talk around here, I would suggest Jim put some crittier, and Axolotl is my first suggestion!!

I guess some ppl dunno what's Axolotl, but they r commonly keep in the Freshwater Aquarium tank.
This is how it looks like:
http://www.caudata.org/axolotl/image...8_may_2000.jpg

The axolotl (Ambystoma mexicanum) is a large salamander native to Mexico. It has external gills, regenerative powers, and can live and breed in a larval form. The name is derived from the Aztec god Xolotl, the god of games who could turn himself into an axolotl to escape his enemies. Because axolotls can regenerate legs, tails, heart muscles, and even spinal cords, researchers have long studied them in hopes of learning how to restore diseased heart tissue or damaged or amputated limbs in humans. A very amazing critter eh? :p
some more pix of it
http://www.axolotl.com/images/axolotl.jpg http://www.artis.nl/inhoud/plaatjes/axolotl.jpg
http://www.kchz.cz/vystava2000/a/img/381m.jpg http://www.kchz.cz/vystava2000/a/img/383m.jpg

Well, what do u think Jim? is it possible to add into ur Freshwater Aquarium?

Digital Lungfish 04-21-2002 05:13 PM

Quote:

Yes, I took the pic yesterday. Hey, gimme a break -- I'm in my mid 50s
Sorry Jim, really. I was just curious is all. I certainly didn't mean for it to sound so bad and for that I do apologize. I guess I could have used a bit more tact when asking that question. :(

Jim Sachs 04-21-2002 05:32 PM

Just kiddin', DL.

James - Salamanders, newts, crayfish, etc., will be in the Freshwater Creature Pack, many moons from now.

Lza 04-21-2002 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by Jim Sachs
Yes, that's exactly what it will do.
Great! And I hope there is not a big empty place when the treasure chest is deactivated. ;-)

Digital Lungfish 04-21-2002 05:51 PM

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James,

The Axolotl is actually the larval form of the Tiger Salamander, one of the largest North American species. I've kept them as pets in the past, quite a lot when I was a kid actually.

They do make for really interesting pets and I would love to see one brought to life in one of Jim's screensavers. However, this type of creature is more appropriatley suited to the Terrarium and not an aquarium. Keep it in mind though, when the time comes and Jim starts work on the Terrarium, we'll need to start adding different species to the wish list.

In case anyone is curious as to what a Tiger Salamander looks like, here's a couple of pictures. Notice the different colors and patterns, it's because they're each from a different place.

James 04-21-2002 05:58 PM

Haha Jim, I was just going to suggest the crayfish, May I suggest the type of it?
I'd like to see the unique Blue Crayfish(usually Red or Beown Crayfish are very common), Blue Crayfhis looks just very unique of its color and yet it is a genetic oddity of the common brown crayfish.
some pix of it
http://www.bluecrayfish.com/pix/pic0a.jpg http://www.sandfiredragonranch.com/i...manus.blue.jpg
http://www.bluecrayfish.com/pix/pic4a.jpg http://www.bluecrayfish.com/pix/pic9a.jpg
http://www.bluecrayfish.com/pix/pic5a.jpg

and what about some Freshwater Snails?
http://www.aquariumfish.net/images_01/wallys_romeo.jpg http://www.aquariumfish.net/images_01/wallys_brutus.jpg http://www.aquariumfish.net/images_01/wallys_edgar.jpg

And with a "Snail allow on glass" toggel in the setting panel...

James 04-21-2002 06:12 PM

and I also suggest Trionysiliensis, sorry I dunno it's common name,can anyone tell me?
here's is how it looks like
very similar to Turtle, but its back shell is very soft
http://www.shiqiao.net/images/dgjy.gif
http://www.shiqiao.net/images/jy1.gif
http://sj.shac.gov.cn/img/tscp/zhhb.jpg
http://www.35778.com/hntcw/hunanshui...ages/jiayu.jpg http://jiancarp.363.net/ja.jpg

Tiny Turtle 04-22-2002 03:34 AM

There's actually nothing that is similar to a turtle. All your images are of "real" turtles (and at least two different species). I don't recollect the Trionysiliensis name, but it looks like some sort of softshell turtle. I'll check in a book of mine when I get home from work.

These guys are really hard to keep as pets because their soft shells are susceptible to fungal attacks which demands very high water quality. The Florida softshell having a maximum carapace length of about 30"/75cm might be a problem too... Anyway, they are cool animals and can swim super fast if they want.


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