Thanks, Endie and Derwinator for the reports.

Endie, next build will probably just lack German altogether since it won't be properly localized anyway. Different distributors handle the localization, and they won't touch it until I'm done putzing around.

That´s ok for me. I'm glad to see that it's gonna be localized at all.
For now the most important thing is watching the fish (and the new eel of course), not talking to them ;)
Thus, happy further putzing...

Andreas (Endie).

Hey Jim - I'm not sure if this means anything or not, or if you're already aware of it, but just in case.........

I've noticed that every time MA ScreenSaver activates, it leaves the following error message in the Console log:

"2/17/12 9:04:49.637 AM [0x0-0x40040].com.apple.ScreenSaver.Engine: ScreenSaverEngine(1215,0x10d209000) malloc: *** auto malloc[1215]: error: GC operation on unregistered thread. Thread registered implicitly. Break on auto_zone_thread_registration_error() to debug."

OS 10.7.3

Thanks dsanfili, I'll take a look.

I've fixed the Tiger issue, and I've figured out why the conflict between MA3.2 and MA3. Don't have a fix for that, yet. For the moment we'll just need to remove MA3 to install MA3.2, though maybe keeping the MA 3 name would be a workaround.

Hi Jim,

Noting that the current beta will expire later today can we expect an updated beta soon?

Thanks,
Darren

http://www.orderndev.com/downloads/M...quarium3_2.dmg

Drop dead date: 3/14
New: Daylight and moon lighting modes assignable per background
Fixed: Tiger, a couple of drawing issues, a problem of overlapping with MA 3 pieces (MA 3.0 may crash in the System Prefs panel if you're switching between MA 3.2 and MA 3.0). Removed non-English localizations since they aren't really localized for the new functionality. Keyboard controls inside the screen saver now work.
Remaining: hook threading back up, better icons for the lighting modes

Comments and criticisms welcome. If the problem has to do with the UI in some way, please include your OS. If it is performance, please include OS and hardware.

This is the last feature I anticipate in the product for this release, and I should finalize the bits for a real product shortly. Please don't hold back on anything you see which is problematic. There shouldn't be anything which is a downgrade from 3.0. Everything should be as good or better.

Thanks,
Jim

Thanks for the update, Jim. Will give it a try on Mac OS X 10.7.3 and let you know how it goes.

Darren

So far, everything looks good. Two minor issues I've noted:

- Press "W" in the screen saver produces a black bar across the bottom 1/4 of screen that didn't appear previously
- Switching from MA 3.2 back to MA 3 in the Screen Saver control panel produced a crash in the System Preferences app. I have the dump I can send you if you're interested. Relaunching the System Preferences fixes the problem temporarily.

Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 (11D50b)

Thanks,
Darren

The black bar is necessary for the night mode lighting to look good -- it prevents light from shining through a few spots in the geometry when the lighting is turned down.
MA 3.0 crashes with MA 3.2 installed, sometimes. It depends on which one you use first. I haven't decided if this is fixable/should be fixed. MA 3.0 should be replaced by MA 3.2 anyway.

Thanks for the feedback. Keep 'em coming!

3.2 Beta Feedback
 

The fish sometimes disappear briefly and then re-appear. Find this happens most often when beginning to travel behind a fixed object. I'm running OS 10.7.3 on a MacBook pro with 16GB RAM.

Feashman,

Yes, that is still an issue. It shouldn't be worse than MA 3.0. I hope to get something done on that before ship.

Thanks for the feedback, please keep them coming!

I'll post a build today which will prevent the light ripple from playing on the lower jaw of the eel.

small UI bug in Tiger
 

Hi Jim,

thanks for fixing the preferences bug in Tiger. But there is still a minor UI bug with the new 'sun' and 'moonlight' icons in the backgrounds tab (only Tiger, Leopard is all fine). It's just an optical glitch and doesn't seem to affect functionality. See the screenshot...

...and just in case you're running out of spots for polishing: I would prefer the solid white seconds hand of the analog clock i saw on the PC version... ;)

Endie.

Thanks, Endie, Jim Sachs got me some icons which are properly sized so Tiger will behave nicely. That and the improved eel mouth will be in a build I expect to put out tonight or tomorrow.

New build is up.

Same drop dead date.

New lighting mode icons, improved eel mouth.

Share and enjoy!

Anyone have any feedback for me on this most recent build?

If you're running it, please post OS/Hardware so I have an idea what our coverage is.

Thanks,
Jim

Hi Jim,

I've not noticed any issues so far apart from the occasional fish swimming through the coral here and there.

Mac Mini 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM and OSX 10.7.3

Thanks for all your hard work on this :)

Cheers,

Steve

Hi Jim,

just to mention that german localization is back in, but still unpolished. I don't know if it should be corrected now.
Fast scrolling with the cursor keys is fast enough but not really smooth. (because of not being VSYNCed? - MA3.2 runs at avg. 55 fps with fish set to "one of each")

PowerMAC G4 MDD Dual 1,25 - 2 GB RAM - 10.4.11/10.5.8

Endie.

same thing here... still beautiful, with the only real issue being the occasional fish swimming through something. I see it a lot by the mouth of the cave, specifically.

All in all though.. I love it! :D

I'm new to the forums but an old hand with the Windows version of MA3. Having switched over to a MacBook Pro, I've only just discovered that a Mac version of MA3 is available and I wish to be up to date with the beta version.

Is the version linked in the first post of this thread always directed to the latest beta version (thinking of beta expiry date here)?

Thank you all for producing MA3 and especially those producing the MAC version.

Thanks

Bob

Beta 3.2 has expired (again) :-(

Will there be another beta or is this going to release? When?

Thanks,
Darren

This should go final by the beginning of April.
A build with a new beta date has been posted -- 3/31.
http://www.orderndev.com/downloads/M...quarium3_2.dmg

Thanks Jim - will keep testing with the new build. So far, everything seems pretty solid.

Darren

Thanks Derwinator. I'm sorry for dribbling these out. I time them to expire about when I expect to get enough time together for a new build. My prognostication hasn't been very good.

Just Curious has new version gone 'Final'?
http://www.neowin.net/news/serenescr...quarium-326029

Hi hayc59,

Mac version should go final by the beginning of April. I have a little more I want to get done.

Hi Jim,

One small issue I've noticed under Mac OS X Lion when you have the LaunchPad open and the screen saver starts. Moving the pointer no longer exits the screen saver but you need to click the mouse to exit.

Thanks,
Darren

Thanks Derwinator,

We don't have control over that, so it is most likely an Apple issue. Could you see if other screen savers behave the same?

Problem
 

I'm running a yet to be released version of MacOS X. When the screen saver kicks in the fish just stop but the screen does not go black.

Just wanted to make you aware of the problem.

BTW: The app is amazing.

Thanks for your hard work.

jeff

jhbackes,

please message me details.

thanks,
Jim

Hi Jim,

You're right - it's a problem on Apple's side. Other screen savers have the same problem when the LaunchPad is open. Will file a bug report with them.

Thanks,
Darren

Hi Jim,

thanks for new build. As Derwinator already said, everything seems to be pretty solid. Playing around with the background colors I've noticed that the two presets are not editable anymore (bug or feature?).

Just want to tell, that I replaced my stock Radeon 9000 Pro in my old G4 MDD Dual 1,25 with an Radeon 9800 PRO (flashed PC card) so now my Computer is also capable of displaying the ripple effect... :) Huuuiiii, eats a lot of FPS (from 55 to 35 with fish set to "one of each"). I thought the new graphics card would eat that new challenge for breakfast...

Since I have the PC and Mac Versions running side by side I've noticed some differences: The bubble column on the Mac doesn't come out of this tube-like-thing, and it is missing the bigger, faster bubbles in the foreground. Is my Computer still missing hardware capacities of displaying the bubbles, or ist the Mac bubble column complete different in design?

Overall everything looks great anyway, and you did (and still doing) a great job. Thanks for that Jim.

Endie.

Hi Jim,

Thanks for the new build and so far I've not found any real issues apart from confirming what Endie has found with the two default backgrounds being un-editable. Creating new backgrounds and editing previously created ones is okay but not the two defaults.

There's still the odd fish swimming through the scenery but it seems mainly to be through the top of the eel cave entrance.

One feature I would like to see added at some point is to be able to change the font used for the digital clock display on the crystal along with the colour and transparency of the text. Any chance of this feature being added sometime?

Cheers,

Steve

Mac Mini 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM and OSX 10.7.3

Current 3.2 Beta Has Expired
 

When will 3.2 be released as final?

Odd. I missed the e-mails that there were messages here.

The default backgrounds are not editable. That is by design.

I'll have to look at what you are mentioning about the bubbles. I didn't notice that. I didn't see any changes in Jim Sachs's code so I didn't really examine it by eye-ball. It may be something which has just been wrong.

For the request for changing the font color/transparency will be considered.

Thanks for the help.

I'll make another post when I get a refreshed build up.

The 3.2 Beta Expired.

Are you going to extend the Beta or are we to just wait for the final?

I'm going to convert the last beta into release and post it today (4/3/12).

I posted a release build of the last source code set. No time out. Otherwise, identical.

I'd like confirmation that it works on PPC as I can't test that.

My "day job" has had me blitzed for the last month so I've not been able to make the changes I wanted, but it is good enough to stop sending it out with drop dead dates.