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Jim Sachs 03-26-2010 11:58 AM

*** Marine Aquarium for iPhone & iPad ***
 
Actually, Prolific and I have bigger fish to fry at the moment. We're scrambling around trying to get MA2.6 ready for the iPad deadline tomorrow.

feldon34 03-26-2010 12:05 PM

Best of luck!

JohnWho 03-26-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 119927)
We're scrambling around trying to get MA2.6 ready for the iPad deadline tomorrow.

Oh, crap! -

Now I'll have to buy an iPad just so I can carry around MA, even if it is Ver 2.6.

*wonders if it will work on my iPod Touch?*

Dale 03-26-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 119920)
I guess I must again waste some more valuable time and repeat that I have never seen Funnyfish, and know nothing about it. Prolific probably thanked me for bringing the whole concept of doing screensavers to them, and giving them the code framework that they were based on.

My intent in posting the "about" screen capture was to indicate the programmers, and the writer of the installer. A brief look at the Funnyfish Screen Saver is all it takes to understand that there was essentially no artistry involved - and certainly no artistic involvement by you, Jim.

In my opinion, Funnyfish is not up to "flying toasters" standards.

Jim Sachs 03-26-2010 06:14 PM

JohnWho - Yes, it already works well on the iPod Touch and iPhone. It's essentially the same program for the iPad, with the same resolution as the iPhone. Our guys (Order N Develolpment in Texas) can only run it on the emulator, since no one has an iPad yet. Once we can see it in the native environment, I'm hoping we can bring the resolution up to iPad capabilities. But at least we have a good shot at being one of the apps available at launch. I just re-did all the fish icons in the Fish Chooser interface, and they look good on the tiny iPhone screen.

Edit: the iPad version of Marine Aquarium runs at full 1024 x 768 resolution.

JohnWho 03-26-2010 07:32 PM

Thanks for that reply, Jim.

I can't seem to find it in the iTunes App store though.

How does one obtain a copy for their iPod Touch? Does it help if they already have a licensed copy?

Jim Sachs 03-26-2010 08:21 PM

It's not available to the public yet. Your iPhone's ID number has to be embedded into the build in order for it to show up. We're taking over the "Aquarium" name and icon from the version which was done by Arktis, our German distributer. They simply captured an MPEG movie of MA2.6 (and now MA3), then packaged it for iPhone download. The problem is that it's a HUGE download, and is a canned sequence. The version we just finished is a real 3D program which allows you to choose the fish, set the lights, etc.

JohnWho 03-26-2010 08:34 PM

OK - in that case I'll watch for it to show up in iTunes Store.

Wish you the best with it.

Jim Sachs 03-28-2010 11:42 AM

Looks like we got everything in before the deadline. Now we're waiting to hear if Apple accepts it.

rctneil 03-28-2010 03:50 PM

I would love to get an iPhone version!

That would be amazing!

Dathomir 04-01-2010 10:01 AM

My iPhone is eagerly awaiting the aquariums arrival!

feldon34 04-01-2010 09:08 PM

Marine Aquarium 2.6 is now available on the iPhone/iPad App Store.

https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=5302

Jack Gilvey 04-02-2010 04:04 PM

Purchased as soon as I heard! Nice!

engelens 04-04-2010 01:53 PM

Beautiful! I just installed it, and it looks great on my i pod touch! Can't wait to get an ipad to see how it looks!:TU:

Jim Sachs 04-04-2010 03:45 PM

The current problem with the iPad is that it runs iPhone apps at iPhone resolution. The screen is much bigger, but it just stretches the image to fill it.

Edit: the iPad version of Marine Aquarium runs at full 1024 x 768 resolution.

Nicki 04-04-2010 05:34 PM

Somehow I don't think I will be an iPad customer. Nothing personal it's just not my lifestyle. But I would be interested to know the relative screen sizes and resolutions. First time I saw MA2.6 it was on a 17" 1024x768 monitor and it just looked gorgeous.

Dale 04-04-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicki (Post 120127)
Somehow I don't think I will be an iPad customer. Nothing personal it's just not my lifestyle. But I would be interested to know the relative screen sizes and resolutions. First time I saw MA2.6 it was on a 17" 1024x768 monitor and it just looked gorgeous.

The iPhone and iPod Touch are specified at 320 x 480
The iPad is specified at 768 x 1024. 9.7 inch diagonal measurement.

Jim Sachs 04-04-2010 06:29 PM

Correct. By the way, 1024x768 is the MA2.6 native res on the PC and Mac, so it may be possible to get it to run in that res on the iPad.

Edit: the iPad version of Marine Aquarium runs at full 1024 x 768 resolution.

Dale 04-04-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 120132)
Correct. So you can picture 480x320 images stretched to 1024x768. By the way, 1024x768 is the MA2.6 native res on the PC and Mac, so it may be possible to get it to run in that res on the iPad.

So, you're getting effectively (approximately) 60 pixels per inch on the iPad.

And 768/320 = 2.4 (and 2.133 in the other direction), so whatever the "stretch" algorithm is, there are probably artifacts and/or distortions.

Jim Sachs 04-04-2010 07:30 PM

Nope, no artifacts.

Dale 04-04-2010 08:29 PM

60 ppi versus 132 ppi would make quite a difference. But I presume every other full-screen application developer is facing the same problem.

AKcrab 04-04-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 120132)
Correct. So you can picture 480x320 images stretched to 1024x768. By the way, 1024x768 is the MA2.6 native res on the PC and Mac, so it may be possible to get it to run in that res on the iPad.

To market this product as "designed for both iPhone and iPad" seems a bit disingenuous to me. If it is "designed for the iPad" that means (to me) that it has been (re)coded to fit the iPad native resolution.

If I'm reading you right, it is basically running the iPhone app at 2X.

Jim Sachs 04-04-2010 09:22 PM

The conversion was done by Jim O'Connor's team. Like all other iPad developers, they only had an emulation program on the Mac. MA2.6 was selected by Apple as an official iPad app. Jim O's iPad hasn't arrived yet, but Mike Babin's has. Mike was able to get full-resolution of Ma2.6 on the iPad, despite severe programming constraints.

feldon34 04-05-2010 08:54 AM

Marine Aquarium 2.6 is $0.99. That's LESS THAN ONE DOLLAR.

So I'm going to have limited patience allusions to this somehow being a ripoff. I'm not saying criticism and suggestions are not welcome, but please consider the price of the product.

Note: Because of the way the App Store works, customers will get a notification that a new version is available.

Jim Sachs 04-05-2010 09:22 AM

A couple of people have reported that MA2.6 actually looks very good on the iPad.

Jim Sachs 04-05-2010 10:21 AM

Mike Babin was able to get MA2.6 to use full resolution. You can even stretch and zoom in, using fingertip control.

Michael Babin 04-05-2010 10:33 AM

Yes, full resolution on the iPad. No pixel doubling, stretching, scaling, etc.

Submitting the final binary before receiving the actual hardware was a bit nerve-wracking, to say the least. Since Apple reviews all the software before putting it up for sale on the App Store, I was almost entirely certain users wouldn't encounter any major flaws if the app made it through review. Still, first thing I did with my new iPad was test MA.

Jim Sachs 04-05-2010 11:01 AM

Yay, Mike!

Dale 04-05-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Babin (Post 120158)
Yes, full resolution on the iPad. No pixel doubling, stretching, scaling, etc.

Submitting the final binary before receiving the actual hardware was a bit nerve-wracking, to say the least. Since Apple reviews all the software before putting it up for sale on the App Store, I was almost entirely certain users wouldn't encounter any major flaws if the app made it through review. Still, first thing I did with my new iPad was test MA.

Congratulations.

And please don't interpret my posts as criticism - I was just quoting the numbers, and it didn't surprise me that there might have been restrictions.

Glad you got full resolution, and of course on the slightly-smaller-than-monitor screen with the same number of pixels, it should look even better.

feldon34 04-05-2010 12:21 PM

I've gone back and edited Jim's posts to indicate that Marine Aquarium 2.6 in fact displays on the iPad with no resolution issues.

But I'm considering closing the thread, since I'd rather folks not find this thread or reference this thread and somehow come to the conclusion that the iPad version is compromised in some way.

Jim Sachs 04-05-2010 12:39 PM

Thanks, Morgan, but I don't think closing the thread is necessary. The iPhone/iPad version is working as we hoped, and feedback is welcome.

Dathomir 04-07-2010 08:04 AM

Downloaded and installed on my iPhone and works a treat.

Now I can carry my aquarium around with me! (and annoy people with the bubble sound on high volume! :) )

Jim Sachs 04-07-2010 09:31 AM

Thanks, Dathomir!

Anyone who has downloaded and likes MA2.6 is encouraged to give it a positive rating in the App Store. At 99 cents (20 cents for me), we have to sell an awful lot of these things to make it worth the trouble. Right now, it buys my lunch. At least I can afford jelly with the peanut butter.

henemly 04-07-2010 03:49 PM

Them 20¢ add up. One million buyers is $200,000 bucks :D

Nicki 04-07-2010 04:54 PM

A lot of these apps do actually sell into the millions, so I'm told. If only Jim had invented Farmville.

Jim Sachs 04-07-2010 06:39 PM

The Koi app was the biggest seller on the iPhone, and sold in the millions. We seem to be stuck at 126 per day.

MikeL 04-07-2010 06:41 PM

Droid Eris?
 
Will there be an Android version too? Fingers crossed. I'm in tech school doing web design and everyone loves the screensaver on my laptop.

AKcrab 04-07-2010 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feldon34 (Post 120153)
So I'm going to have limited patience allusions to the idea that this is somehow a ripoff. I'm not saying criticism and suggestions are not welcome, but please consider the price of the product.

I was merely concerned about what the product actually was. I bought it for my iPhone.

I sell/repair macs for a living, so you might say I live and breathe Apple. I was immediately worried having seen iPhone apps running at 2x on the iPad. The apps work fine, but they look likecrap.

Feedback from iPad owners has been that they are deleting iPhone versions of apps the second an iPad version is offered.

I'm extremely pleased that the iPad version is rendered natively for the iPad. I bet it looks stunning. Maybe I'll spend $2.97 and install it on our 3 demo iPad units. :D

feldon34 04-07-2010 10:09 PM

I updated the fan site with mocked up pictures of the Aquarium on iPhone and iPad.

rhildinger 04-08-2010 03:56 PM

Purchased and now running on my iPad, and it works great! Unfortunately since this is the MA2.6 version, the low resolution background texture is pretty obvious and could really use some improvement. Mostly it makes me immediately wish for an MA3 port.

-Robert


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