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Allot of times in the screen saver they close slightly or partially and begin to open again. When several fish go by they resemble an accordion type movement. Jim perhaps you should set the close speed to full speed and have them open up slowly. I think that would cut down on the slinky like movement. |
I know..but the impatient lot we are.. adding 30 lion fish is currently our only alternative to to making those clams work for having us wait this long:D
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I just don't have the weeks required to finish fine-tuning the clams right now. They already work identically to the clams at my local aquarium store, except for moving at half-speed. They start closing until a threat is past, then immediately open, no matter where they were in the closing process. I suggest you switch to one of the other aquarium simulations with moving clams.
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The clams in those videos I've looked at behave very similar to Jim's. - Therefore I don't think there is anything wrong with their movement.
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No need to get any panties in a bunch, it was just a suggestion.
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I don't wear panties, - and I shouldn't think Jim does either.... Our wives would think that very strange! ..... :)
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I agree the movement of the clams is fine:TU:.... My criticism is that the fish are programmed to swim too far away from them.. in my opinion... :)
There is a natural path that fish would normally follow.. between the crystal and corral... Jim's fish mostly go through this opening fairly high up (and thus they avoid triggering the clams). I know this gets into the tricky collision avoidance and pass through problem... and I understand that this is an area currently (or will be) re worked. In due time when the "nibbling" feature is working the fish will be allowed to get closer to the bottom and clams:D |
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lol...One of my first thoughts was, "Surely they don't move that slow..." I have seen only 1-2 live clams and they snapped shut really fast like a reflex so I was kinda puzzled by these slowly closing. Then thought I might look around and do some homework before I put my foot in my mouth. And then after seeing Cliff's links, figured, well, maybe some of them do close that slow and let it go. Thanks for your comment above so I know I wasn't losing it. I'll just clam up now and admire your work. :) Regarding the fishes, I have to say as I watched, sometimes I could swear they should be closing but they just sit there so I figure the fish must be closer to the glass than it looks. The best close connection I've seen is when the fishes seem to be foraging the pebbles nearby looking for something and then they close. :TU: |
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Something else in the tank.
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I think the clams are perfectly fine. You'll never satisfy 100% of the people, Jim. Personally I think it is time to move forward with the new high resolution fish models. That would greatly compliment the new high resolution background of MA3. Just my opinion. And you know what they say about opinions!
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What are you working on now, Jim?
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An escape plan? ;) :lol::lol:
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It's a secret.
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Shhhhh.....:silent:
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We all love secrets.... gives us something to speculate about:) I am guessing "something that lives in the sea"
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I am just so glad I don't have to change the water in this tank. ;)
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The movement is good. I would have them retract much faster, more like a flinch. When they open back up, the speed is fine. The accordion effect is caused by having the same speed in both directions (open/close).
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at this point, I'm happy as a ...well....a clam..
looking forward to what's next... as far as people never being happy, I think the never ending tweaking of the music and crystal episodes made that entirely clear...things that really had nothing at all to do with the heart of the aquarium, which is really what this project was about...but, all's well that ends well.....yeah...a clam...I'm happy as a clam... |
dboyd420 - Do you really have the impression that they open and close at the same rate? They open at 1/4 the rate that they close.
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Jim,
I realize now that they do open at a slower rate. It’s just not dramatic enough to seem real, and causing the accordion effect mentioned by jroseone. Clams have a fast reflex when they close, kinda like a twitch. I don't think they should close all the way every time, that's not their behavior. But to alleviate the accordion effect, the clams should have a flinching action, much faster than the opening rate. |
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It's not often that this happens! .... I couldn't get to the Print/Scrn key fast enough! :)
..... And a rather nice background colour, - don't you think? |
I haven't seen that one on mine.
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Nice job on all three closed. Been attempting the same thing without success.
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Hi Jim
First off I think the clams look great! But (lol) I also love the way they look when closed. Do you think you could have a random clam close at a random time. Say 5-10 min's and stay closed for 30 sec's or so. That way there would only be a clam fully closed Every 5 to 10 minutes, and they would still work just like they do now. Just a thought don’t beat me up (lol) I just think they look so much better When one is closed. If not I am buying it anyway. Thanks Ron P. |
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I think upping the close speed would be suffice in eliminating the issue. |
I was about to comment on how often the clams move, as if they were exercising.
Then I remembered in an earlier post about fish interaction - I had 30 fish on ! There was always a fish bumping into them. IOW - less fish = better clam experience |
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Finally got all 3 to close tight. (their ganging up)
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Can't install beta 10, saved file to Documents and clicked to open,Internet Explorer tries to open several times a second resulting in a strobe effect and cannot be cancelled. I have to restart to get rid of it, any one else experienced this please?
I,m using IE8, Vista premium 32bit, 4Gb Ram, Quad 6600, GeForce 9800GT,Direct X 10, and 202Gb of space left on H/Drive,HP 2558 monitor |
OOOPS, Please forget last post, just realised I was trying to open zip file with IE8, all is now well, and I apologise for wasting time
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No more clams...
Beta 10a expired today, so I had to revert to the Prolific installer version, without live clams.:( They really made the aquarium come to life, with their interaction with the fish. I hope the new beta (or installer) will be up soon, so we can be clamming again! Jim, it is amazing how you can bring things to life!:TU:
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Yes, mine has expired to so have temporarily reverted to the ribbosn screensaver until a new beta comes out. I could go to the installer version but might as well wait for the next beta. Not a big deal as I can wait!
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mine too :sad:
I am ready to buy it, even though I know it isn't ready completely. |
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I noticed that Beta10a says: "Beta 9 has expired..." |
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Do eeett!! I deed! It's a beautiful thing!! |
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