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cjmaddy 11-19-2008 11:58 AM

True! - I will probably always leave it there too!... But I also like that green coral, - and I think the left-hand end looks empty. :eek:

feldon34 11-19-2008 12:01 PM

I should add that I have always had ideas about developing a Logo picker, loader, downloader for the Aquarium. I'll wait and see what MA3 does as far as interface for picking logos. The basic functionality of MA2.6 is --you just put the files in the Marine Aquarium folder and they appear in the Aquarium on a random/shuffle rotation.

Jim Sachs 11-19-2008 12:17 PM

I just wish I could think of an easier way to implement logos. Designing one takes a fair amount of knowledge regarding masks, Alpha channels, file formats, etc. I'm just finishing up a SereneScreen logo which took even me about an hour, and I've been doing computer graphics for over 20 years.

I'm also experimenting with different looks. The logo I'm working on is full color, and is applied right over the face of the crystal, like a sign painted on. There's also the etched look, like most of the logos you guys have done. A third possibility is "embeded", with a color logo underneath the first layer of the crystal.

rctneil 11-19-2008 12:32 PM

A place at the far left hand side of the tank would be great. Giving users a choice with all the settings is a massive plus in my book!

Dale 11-19-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by feldon32 (Post 107632)
I should add that I have always had ideas about developing a Logo picker, loader, downloader for the Aquarium. I'll wait and see what MA3 does as far as interface for picking logos. The basic functionality of MA2.6 is --you just put the files in the Marine Aquarium folder and they appear in the Aquarium on a random/shuffle rotation.

And it's rather obvious that -- if the logo function in MA3 does not at least support that functionality, then somebody is going to have to write that part of the "upgrade" installation procedure.

And don't even consider having MA3 support two or more different ways of inserting logos - that's a nightmare to write, and hideous to support.

As a practical matter, you're probably stuck with that implementation.

Jav400 11-19-2008 12:54 PM

Personally I'm in Morgan's camp on this one.

I haven't used the crystal that often, but ( and don't shoot me here ) I really don't like that finger coral that was there. I think allot of it has to do with that miserable green color. In this instance my preferences are to keep the crystal there regardless. Jim had originally said he might put it on the right, but I much prefer where it is now.

As for Logo's available, I am making a folder to contain all the decent looking logo's that I run across, and it will be on our server where anyone can get them. If there are any that anyone here would like to offer for that purpose let me know and I will add them to the selection.

feldon34 11-19-2008 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 107635)
I just wish I could think of an easier way to implement logos. Designing one takes a fair amount of knowledge regarding masks, Alpha channels, file formats, etc.

I realize you do not like Photoshop or Photoshop Elements, but making a logo with them takes about 5 minutes.

With it, I can make etched, greyscale, or color logos with some or all of the logo transparent, translucent, etc.

Jim Sachs 11-19-2008 02:20 PM

Yes, it's the same process in PaintShop Pro, but have you ever watched someone's eyes glaze over as you tried to explain the concept of an Alpha channel?

Stew2000 11-19-2008 02:26 PM

Just got Beta7a. the new logo looks excellent on the crystal.

This is going to be the best screensaver ever made ;)

Jim Sachs 11-19-2008 02:29 PM

1 Attachment(s)
For those who haven't downloaded it yet, here's what it looks like:

feldon34 11-19-2008 02:30 PM

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In Photoshop, you don't do a separate Alpha channel. You just start with a 100% transparent layer and start painting on it. Then you export it as a 24-bit PNG with the Transparency checkbox toggled.

Awesome job on the logo by the way. :)

Stew2000 11-19-2008 02:33 PM

That's the way I do it in Paint Shop Pro. :D

feldon34 11-19-2008 02:34 PM

I believe Jim uses PaintShop Pro version 7, before they Photoshopified it.

Jim has tried the newest PaintShopPro and Photoshop. He was horrified with the interface.
Then again I tried an earlier PaintShop Pro and was equally horrified.

We just think differently I guess. :)


I do wish there was an easier, more user-friendly way to make logos, but people are going to get logos from all over the place, in various formats, most of them WITHOUT transparency. They will look awful when put on the crystal. I really don't have a problem with users having to take an extra step to get something on the crystal.

Stew2000 11-19-2008 02:37 PM

I evolved from psp7 to psp8 to pspX.
I think one of my first was Corel Draw. XD

Jim Sachs 11-19-2008 02:37 PM

I use PSP 10.

Morgan - did you extract that logo PNG from the executable, or build it yourself?

Stew2000 11-19-2008 02:41 PM

I've just remembered PSP is now owned by Corel. I've gone back in time :D
I wonder if we'll get back Windows 3.1 :D

feldon34 11-19-2008 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 107650)
I use PSP 10.

Morgan - did you extract that logo PNG from the executable, or build it yourself?

From the SCR. :silent: :erm:

Jav400 11-19-2008 03:04 PM

it works ok for me with one caveat, for awhile there in windowed mode my title bar would not disappear, it just greyed out and that was it. I can't reproduce it yet, so I am putting this one down to some strange occurrence for now.

fozzy 11-19-2008 03:29 PM

well, that was faster than expected :)
The crystal looks really good...

jroseone 11-19-2008 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jav400 (Post 107638)
Personally I'm in Morgan's camp on this one.

I haven't used the crystal that often, but ( and don't shoot me here ) I really don't like that finger coral that was there. I think allot of it has to do with that miserable green color. In this instance my preferences are to keep the crystal there regardless. Jim had originally said he might put it on the right, but I much prefer where it is now.

As for Logo's available, I am making a folder to contain all the decent looking logo's that I run across, and it will be on our server where anyone can get them. If there are any that anyone here would like to offer for that purpose let me know and I will add them to the selection.

I made some NY sports logos here: https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4574, feel free to use them, if the format is the same for MA3.


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