Thanks, guys - those observations help.

If.. I start in windowed mode the dusters are active.. shrinking as fish approach. When I go to full screen (right click mouse) the dusters are "really" slow to respond to fish.. almost looks like they are static.
When I have my settings to open in none window mode (full screen on both monitors) the dusters appear frozen and do not move. A right click > select window will bring it back on to my main monitor.. But the dusters remain frozen.

As long as you got the code open, Jim, don't forget this conversation. :)


:TU:

Well that's a nice birthday present. Thanks Jim!!!

Hello Jim,
Thank you for this attractive Christmas present, feather dusters are very attractive.
Everything walks(works) very well on my computers (Windows vista).
Good day and always hopes of more novelties in " Aquarium Marine 3 " for year 2014.

Beautiful
 

Hello Jim, Thank you for this beautiful addition! It makes the background really come alive! One remark, though, maybe it is more realistic if the retracting speeds would vary. Now when a fish approaches, all three go into their tube at the same speed, which makes it look a bit artificial. In my tank, they 'zipped' in instantly (although I like your animation better). But this is just a minor remark, it is beautiful!

I've just discovered this:-

If I select, 'Display nothing on this monitor', for Monitor 2, then go into Windowed mode from monitor 1 and extend the window to cover both monitors, the featherdusters then wave in the current and retract as intended. Even though they are then showing on monitor 2..... Strange!

Returning to, 'Display screen saver on this monitor', for Monitor 2, and the featherdusters become static once again. (In a window, or not in a window.)

Just got the chance to try this version. The program does not crash on 2 monitors, however none of the feather dusters move or retract when a fish swims by. They look great.

Alan

For what it's worth Jim, engelens is correct in his previous post. Feather dusters can "retract" at an alarming rate. Almost like a magicians "now you see it now you don't thing".

Since you are now going to have more than one, once you get the action correct on this new version, you might want to create a random retraction number for each one. Or maybe the closer a fish swims to it, the faster it goes in type scenario. I had first figured that when you got to the "darting" stage of the fish that it might be implemented then so that if a fish darts by a feather duster it would very quickly disappear.

Retraction speed - yes, I can vary them.

No movement on second monitor - I've isolated the problem and am working on it. Multiple-monitor setups are always trouble. Most people think that a second monitor would be easy, just a second viewport. But an entirely new 'world' has to be created for each view - all new 3D objects and programming. Then the timing has to be coordinated so that everything that happens in the second world approximates what happens in the first.

Edit - Let's try this one:

http://www.fish-byte.com/MA33gBeta.scr

Jim,
I also noticed the similar/same retraction speed between the three, but thought you had enough to work on so I reluctantly keep silent. BUT, now that the cats out of the bag and you are enjoying a MA3 renaissance I would kindly like to remind you of another feature you recently said you would add (I'm ducking for cover :)). The on/off setting to keep Harvey hidden inside his cave. That way two versions of MA3 is not needed when someone is in a fish only mood.

Thanks for the new additions, it's good to see MA3 back in the spot light.

Oh, yeah - the Moray on/off switch. Will do.

Thank you. :TU:

In full screen mode, everything seems fine. Feather dusters still become static if going from multiscreen to windowed mode (i.e., pressing 'F').

Freddy Prinze: Looooking Guuuud....
 

Or...
As Slammin' Sammy Sosa would say: "It looks Berry, Berry good to me".
:TU:

It's working very well in dual monitor for me now. Great job.

Alan

Well you fixed most of it.. Starting in windowed mode and going full screen the dusters work perfect. Speed is good and they close / open individually.:TU:
But.. there is a real inconsistency.
Open in windowed mode.. drag window into second screen. Works.
Open in windowed mode > go full screen. Works.
Open in windowed mode > go full screen > go windowed.. rascals are frozen.
Change settings to start full screen.. dusters work.. > go windowed and they freeze. However.. toggling back and forth windowed / full screen and the dusters work each time one is in full screen and not when in windowed mode.

Hope this makes sense to you Jim.. I can see where this would be something frustrating to resolve.. Good luck:)

With MA33cBeta.....

On the second monitor the featherdusters now wave in the current and retract when a fish is close.

But, - in Windowed mode the featherdusters are still static, - unless 'Display nothing on this monitor', is first selected for Monitor 2,

I think I've fixed the Featherduster-freeze problem:

http://www.fish-byte.com/MA33gBeta.scr

Thanks, Jim,

Even though I'm running only a single monitor I am still downloading and testing each beta version. It reminds me of the excitement during the early days of MA2/3 beta development. Which reminds me, please don't pull anymore all-nighters like you used to do - you got pretty frazzled during those days. ;)

:TU: Yes.. I can no longer create a frozen duster. Nice job incidentally.. the dusters look good

Here's a version with the Moray Eel added to the fish list, so that it can be turned on or off like the rest of the critters.

Also, the starfish position is saved.

http://www.fish-byte.com/MA33gBeta.scr

That looks great, Jim.
I like the eel there all the time, but it's nice to have a choice. The feather dusters look great and appear to react independently as they would be expected to. Another awesome accomplishment, Jim. You are a true artist. Thank you.
Mike

Looks like MA33fBeta has done the trick.

Multiple Featherdusters. :TU:
Featherduster-freeze problem fixed. :TU:
+ Starfish position saved. :TU:

... What more could we ask for? :)

Thanks, Jim. - Nice job.

Cannot turn the eel back on
 

Hello, the eel seems now to be off by default, but in fish settings, I cannot turn the eel back on, I cannot remove the X...

engelens,

You can enable Harvey the eel like you do with any other of the fishes:

1. click on the picture of the eel in the right pane.

2. Look in the left pane and click the "up" arrow next to "Number in tank" to increase the number of Zebra Morey eels to one (1). Unlike the fishes, you can have only one (1) Zebra Moray eel.

Let us know if this doesn't work for you.

Here's something strange. In Settings, I've clicked on the picture of the starfish to highlight it, but the information for the eel is showing.

Also, imho, I think the eel should default "on."

https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...1&d=1389703817

And perhaps, since this is such an awesome product with tons of individual settings the user can change, play with, test out, forget about, never know about, and screw up, would it be possible to add another "all settings back to default" setting?

It works correctly for me. I'm using a single monitor, maybe that has something to do with it.


Good suggestion, we want everyone to know he is hiding in his cave.

Pat - How are you doing that? The new version has a new fish chart with the Moray Eel at the bottom right, yet somehow your computer is displaying the old picture. All I can think of is that it must be using a cached version of the pic.

The Moray Eel DOES default to ON, if the program has never been run. If the Registry contains a fishlist, it will show the Moray as OFF, since there never was one on the list before. Once it is enabled the Registry will remember it.

Pat, - You joined in Nov 2001 and are still not registered? - I can't believe that!

BTW....

Everything seems ok here:-

Ahhh, that explains it. The program uses a different fish chart when it's unregistered.

Maybe Pat is just testing the unregistered version as well.

Thank you, Harris!
 

The eel is back in the cave :)

Here's the fix for the Unregistered behavior:

http://www.fish-byte.com/MA33gBeta.scr

Note: the starfish is no longer in the tank if Unregistered.

A little counter intuitive though. In the fishlist the Moray was unselected with an "x" in the box. Clicking on it selects the box as it does with everything. But, I did not want to "disable" this fish.. only when I disabled.. and "then" had the option to uncheck the disable was the Moray available to the tank.
Perhaps replacing the "Disable this fish" with a "Show / Hide fish"

And.. (you can tell I have little to do today).. The diet of the Moray is listed as carnivorous. An animal can eat a fish and be carnivorous.. If.. a fish eats a fish.. is it still carnivorous? :rolleyes:
Edit> After checking the "Google" I am a wiser man.. fish are animals.. and an animal that eats animals is carnivorous..

If I can think of an elegant way to make the Moray default to ON even if it's not in the saved fishlist, I'll implement it.

That's if I'm even able to program after today. My hard drive just started giving me messages that it's failing. This one is fairly new, a replacement for the catastophic hard drive failure I had a year or so ago. I don't think I can go through this again, and when it fails, I may just take it as a sign that I should get out of computers completely.

Go get a SSD, and there are such things as Back-ups. :)