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Jim Sachs 03-14-2011 11:53 AM

Our guest has left, so I can use my computer room again. Back to forward progress on Harvey!

ESHIREY 03-14-2011 12:06 PM


Jav400 03-14-2011 12:46 PM

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Wizwad 03-14-2011 03:08 PM

Isn't Michael sweet when he does that?! :D

ESHIREY 03-14-2011 03:33 PM

Yes he is. :)

Surferminn 03-14-2011 09:21 PM

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While waiting for Harvey, here's my current wallpaper waiting in anticipation.

Wizwad 03-15-2011 05:01 AM

When seen like that, that's one weird fish! Looks like it has had quilting built into it!

ESHIREY 03-15-2011 05:50 AM

I love the big blue eyes.

Surferminn 03-15-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizwad (Post 131206)
When seen like that, that's one weird fish! Looks like it has had quilting built into it!

Maybe it's because folks make comments like that outloud and points at it that it hides in a cave! :p See how your skin does in water 24/7 with no protective scales. I think it has beautiful skin texture and flexibility. We should all be so lucky.

Jim Sachs 03-15-2011 01:09 PM

Looks like a live zuccini.

Surferminn 03-15-2011 01:25 PM

Did you remembered to build a dog house in your castle. :snorkel:

Jim Sachs 03-15-2011 02:12 PM

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patscarr 03-15-2011 02:19 PM

That just put a huge smile on my face! :D When can we download him?!

ESHIREY 03-15-2011 02:25 PM

yeah yeah yeah. Like the Famous words from the Beatles, when when when?????????

ESHIREY 03-15-2011 02:26 PM

Oh, And minn, I love the pictures.

Jim Sachs 03-15-2011 02:34 PM

Still working on the animation. I've got a lot of catching-up to do after regaining the use of my computer room.

Jav400 03-15-2011 02:34 PM


I echo the above comments.....................

PS. This must be like a van load of 10 year old's on a car trip, are we there yet? :)

ESHIREY 03-15-2011 02:38 PM

hahahahaha Got that right.

Surferminn 03-15-2011 04:19 PM

What a cutie. Definitely looks like one of Michael's. ;)

Only comment I have is that Harvey's back is kinda too horizontally straight but I'm sure it must be a digital glitch in the photo. Looking good. No, I will not ask are we there yet. Thanks for the preview. :) :TU:

Nicki 03-15-2011 06:21 PM

Cool. That's better than I'd even expected. Or even better than I'd expected.

cjmaddy 03-16-2011 03:24 AM

Harvey's looking good! - I like it! .... (Sorry, I mean I like HIM.) ... :)

spetro 03-16-2011 07:10 AM

yeah buddy!!!!!:TU:

nicksteel 03-16-2011 07:48 AM

Isn't there some simple way to revise MA3 to "MA4" (additions) and force updates from the website similiar to the way DA works? It would seem possible to verify serial numbers and email addresses. In other words, start over with a new updated version that could avoid piracy and afford income to the developer?

patscarr 03-16-2011 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by nicksteel (Post 131257)
force updates from the website similiar to the way DA works

We've been debating this here for some time now. Yes, there is a way, but Jim doesn't want to use it.

nicksteel 03-16-2011 09:27 AM

With the decline of stores running demos, I would think it better to change from a sole mass market scenerio. I think there would be an initial surge with die hard users paying for an upgrade and it appears to be working for DA. If it comes down to a choice between limited upgrades due to reduced sales of an already mass pirated program vs paying a bit more for an evolving product with secured updates, I feel many would opt into it.

Many people, myself included, get as much enjoyment in the evolution of these aquariums as the actual display itself. I always capture the latest versions to DVD for my HDTV's. They get a lot of interest from visitors.

ESHIREY 03-16-2011 09:32 AM

But DA is being Pirated. I don't know if a change would really help. If a pirate wants your software he will get it.

nicksteel 03-16-2011 09:56 AM

I use Fraps to capture the screensaver. When Fraps has an upgrade, I get an email. I go to the members only area and enter my email address and password and download the update file. During the update, it appears Fraps compares my email address to the one in my registered version of Fraps. Many programs I use are confined to specific machines and will not update otherwise. I know this is a potential minor hassle, but what's the alternative to registering the legal computers? I realize that most pirates would never purchase software anyway, but there should be some method for the rest of us to support a toy we all like so much.

cjmaddy 03-16-2011 01:16 PM

Jim, I'm not sure how much notice people might take of this site, (probably not very much?). But have you considered putting MA3 in for a review?

Aquarium Screensavers TopTenREVIEWS

ps, Don't read the review for MA2.6. ;)

Jim Sachs 03-16-2011 02:55 PM

Not quite sure what their game is. AquaReal, their #1 choice, looked ridiculous in the video review.

Nicki 03-16-2011 03:46 PM

They don't seem to have updated that site at all since I first saw it in 2007. The review for Dream Aquarium is quite inaccurate.

henemly 03-16-2011 08:09 PM

That review site is a joke.

Nicki 03-17-2011 01:14 PM

Umm, I should say I didn't agree with their review of MA2.6 either.

Jim Sachs 03-17-2011 02:29 PM

Well, I don't think they were too far off-base regarding MA2.6. I mean, 1024x768 was leading-edge 3D in 1999 when 640x480 was the standard, but it looks pretty pixellated on today's high-def monitors. That's why I created MA3.

philosopher 03-18-2011 08:25 AM

An Idea to Get More Money

I think it's wonderful that you're working on the eel. I've followed the various posts about how your aren't making as much with the screensaver and while I don't have any good ideas for free or no risk marketing I do have one idea that couldn't hurt for raising a little money:

Set up a PayPal account and take donations here on the forums and/or on your own site. I have always thought that I paid way to little for such a wonderful work of art. While I can't donate a whole lot to the cause I can certainly come up with $5 - $10 dollars and would be happy to send it to you via PayPal. This way you'd get a bit extra to continue your incredible work and it would go directly to you.

Jim Sachs 03-18-2011 09:47 AM

No, it wouldn't be right to take donations when there are real ongoing crises happening all over the world.

cjmaddy 03-18-2011 11:12 AM

That's a good attitude to take.... If only more people reasoned that way.

spetro 03-19-2011 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 131323)
No, it wouldn't be right to take donations when there are real ongoing crises happening all over the world.

A good judge of character is someone who has instinctual perception about human nature. He can speak to a person for 5 minutes and decide what kind of a person s/he is. S/he can tell if the person is kind, mean, of a lower or higher educational background, whether that person would make a good friend. A good judge of character is intuitive.

I captured this quote from Its seems to fit ya Jim!:cheers:

philosopher 03-20-2011 08:37 PM

Donations - Attitude

That's a wonderful point. And I commend you for your world view. I'll make sure to donate more than I was planning to some of those crises.

I'll also make sure to tell about/show your screensaver to as many people as I can. I know that quite a few people I've shown it to have ended up purchasing. I'll renew my efforts though. It's been a while since I've shown it to anyone new.

Jav400 03-27-2011 07:58 AM


Just a quick check to see how Harvey is going. IS he getting any closer?

Jim Sachs 03-27-2011 09:22 AM

Yes - getting closer. The animation is trickier than I thought it would be. It's not too hard to make the mouth and gills move, but the head movement is giving me trouble. In watching your video, the mouth/gills seem to work opposite each other - when the mouth is open, the gills are closed, and vice-versa. This makes for a simple 2-position morph. But then I have to take the output of that algorithm and apply a progressive bend to each section of the neck vertices, and that's proving to be difficult.

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