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aria1946 10-06-2009 10:06 AM

Bring Back the Climbing Starfish
 
Having recently upgraded to 3.0, the first thing I noticed was the starfish no longer appears on the glass (well, that and the fact that there are no more changing light levels). I'd love to see that starfish on the glass again. Developers: please?https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...milies/lol.gif

feldon34 10-06-2009 12:19 PM

The "developers" is Jim Sachs. It's on his To Do list. Oh, and welcome to the forums. :) :)

Jim Sachs 10-06-2009 02:07 PM

The two items are related. Since there has never been a transition animation of the starfish climbing from the floor onto the glass, it needed total darkness to mask the jump. Without Automatic Lights, there is no more total darkness. A transition animation is on the To-Do list.

FrankGuy 10-06-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Sachs (Post 116028)
A transition animation is on the To-Do list.

How about showing the star fish attempting to open a clam? It wouldn't involve gore and flesh bits. It would just show the design genius behind it's weird appearance.

Jim Sachs 10-06-2009 09:10 PM

I'll consider it.

hololo 10-07-2009 01:27 AM

An option setting is welcome :)

Stew2000 10-07-2009 06:44 AM

Why would a Starfish need to open a clam?

feldon34 10-07-2009 06:49 AM

If it gets peckish.

STEVEPOON 10-07-2009 08:17 AM

At least, let the starfish move fast as previous version.

FrankGuy 10-07-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew2000 (Post 116036)
Why would a Starfish need to open a clam?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_a_starfish_eat

"Some species take advantage of the great endurance of their water vascular systems to force open the shells of bivalve mollusks such as clams and mussels, and inject their stomachs into the shells. Once the stomach is inserted inside the shell it digests the mollusk in place. The cardiac stomach is then brought back inside the body, and the partially digested food is moved to the pyloric stomach. Because of this ability to digest food outside of its body, the sea star is able to hunt prey that are much larger than its mouth would otherwise allow including arthropods, and even small fish in addition to mollusks."

Don't sound as innocent as they look now do they? :drool:

They are a huge pest for the commercial oyster farmers.
They can't even be chopped up and returned to the sea because they regenerate from parts.

Stew2000 10-07-2009 02:05 PM

Now i'm just scared. :eek:

Ralph 10-07-2009 03:03 PM

Jim's starfish is a vegetarian variety.. It would open the clam just to show it can

Jack Gilvey 10-11-2009 08:24 AM

Maybe there can be an option for it to open a coconut.

G600 10-11-2009 12:48 PM

What do you think of this giant coconut crab?

http://www.magazine13.com/giant-coconut-crab/

Their life is marine only as larvae, so these could be put on the Whishlist for MA.:D

Jim Sachs 10-11-2009 05:09 PM

Wow, that picture of one climbing a trash can is enough to give me nightmares!

FrankGuy 10-11-2009 08:53 PM

Naw, throw that big ol' bug into a pot of boiling water with some pickling spice and plate him up with a nice slice of rare prime rib and you got some top shelf surf and turf right there.

Here is a cool video I found about sea stars:
http://www.marthas-vineyard-vacation...rfish-eat.html
There are several other sea star videos also on the right side of that page

The scallops are not defensless to the stars attack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ6tC...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Qsm...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XqWbsvAm4A

Sea star regeneration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7cXe...eature=related

Nadine the expert:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMoH21YjINE

Surferminn 10-12-2009 04:50 AM

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Those crabs are creepy. Some interesting links, FrankGuy. Here's my latest starfish pics taken at the aquarium. One is taken when they have their mouths full of food and seem to suction to the glass to eat. Then a couple ones of really skinny orange ones looking at their refections at the top of the water. And a couple in poses you can project your own interpretation of what they're doing.

cjmaddy 10-12-2009 06:58 AM

I think that last one is the funniest.... :TU: ..... How about reproducing that, Jim? ... :)

Jim Sachs 10-12-2009 08:19 AM

That's the beauty of photography - you can get away with anything, because it really happened. If my starfish did that, I'd be a laughingstock.

Jav400 10-12-2009 08:27 AM

So......................No cartwheels across the bottom of the tank huh? ;)

henemly 10-13-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by G600 (Post 116151)
What do you think of this giant coconut crab?

Scary!

claidheamdanns 10-24-2009 10:13 PM

Yes!
 
Yes, yes, yes ... believe it or not, this was one of our favorite features!

Dummkopf 11-13-2009 12:55 PM

I don't even see the starfish. Where is it hidden?

Jim Sachs 11-14-2009 11:11 AM

It's in the flat area at the left of the tank. (Assuming it's not de-selected in Fish Settings.)

Dummkopf 11-14-2009 01:23 PM

Sorry but it's just not there! And it's not de-selected in Fish Settings. What could be going on? Is there another setting that I missed?

cjmaddy 11-19-2009 12:07 PM

Is it possible that you have the Auto Pan option disabled?

Try pressing the Left Arrow key on your keyboard.

Dale 11-19-2009 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dummkopf (Post 116786)
Sorry but it's just not there! And it's not de-selected in Fish Settings. What could be going on? Is there another setting that I missed?

What version are you running, and is it the "free trial" or did you put in your serial number?

[Just speculating that it might be an issue related to version or something...]

rctneil 11-19-2009 04:15 PM

try going into wireframe mode - "W" and checking. It's sometimes easier to spot in that mode!

Jim Sachs 11-19-2009 06:14 PM

Could you post a screenshot of the left side of your tank?

streetwolf 11-19-2009 08:32 PM

Looks like the last starfish has to go potty and is holding it in :lol:

Dummkopf 11-20-2009 11:42 AM

Looks like you have to have the Auto Pan option enabled. Then you'll see the starfish once about every minute.

cjmaddy 11-20-2009 11:57 AM

If you don't have the Auto Pan option enabled, you might only see about 1/3 of the aquarium!

Dale 11-20-2009 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dummkopf (Post 116866)
Looks like you have to have the Auto Pan option enabled. Then you'll see the starfish once about every minute.

In other words, your problem is fixed?

Dummkopf 11-20-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale (Post 116868)
In other words, your problem is fixed?

Well, yes and no.

Yes: when Auto Pan is enabled I'll see the Starfish.

No: I'll only see it once every minute or so.

No: When Auto Pan is not enabled, I'll never see the Starfish.

cjmaddy 11-20-2009 01:09 PM

You could use the arrow keys to position the view to include the Starfish. - Or you could wait for the Starfish to come into view, (once it start moving again)...... I think there is a saying that goes... You can't have your cake and eat it. ... :)

feldon34 11-20-2009 01:27 PM

I thought the expression was Out of sight, out of mind.

Dale 11-20-2009 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dummkopf (Post 116869)
Well, yes and no.

Yes: when Auto Pan is enabled I'll see the Starfish.

No: I'll only see it once every minute or so.

No: When Auto Pan is not enabled, I'll never see the Starfish.

Just out of curiosity, what things would you like to see, all the time, when Auto Pan is not enabled?

[The design was for a wide tank, with panning. The ability to turn off panning was put in (as I recall) because some people wanted to be able to turn it off. ]

Dummkopf 11-21-2009 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale (Post 116878)
Just out of curiosity, what things would you like to see, all the time, when Auto Pan is not enabled?

How about the Starfish!

cjmaddy 11-21-2009 12:14 PM

Then use the arrow keys to position the view to include the Starfish.

Ralph 11-21-2009 12:55 PM

Cliff.. of topic (I hope) but we see heavy flooding in your part of the world... Have you had to put extensions on your wellies ..:)


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